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Re: 2D Integration

  • To: mathgroup at yoda.physics.unc.edu
  • Subject: Re: 2D Integration
  • From: Robert Singleton <bobs at thnext.mit.edu>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jun 93 15:12:13 -0400

I previously wrote,
 > A while back I posted a question on 2D integration - i.e. is 

 > there a good way to do this in Mma? It would be nice if WRI 

 > would  make a decent 2D or 3D integration routine (hint hint) -- 

 > the  built in Mma NIntegrate is much too slow for multiple 

 > integration involving interpolating functions. 

 > ...
and Jerry Keiper replies,
 > It is not clear what is meant by "decent", but presumably the 

 > idea is to sacrifice accuracy for speed. The default options for 

 > NIntegrate are set to give 6 digits (assuming machine precision 

 > calculations) in the final result.  Moreover the estimate of the 

 > error is rather conservative so you often get a relative error 

 > that is much less than 10^-6.
 >
 > But that is no reason to consider NIntegrate[ ] "indecent".
 > As a user you are perfectly free to choose a different 

 > AccuracyGoal or PrecisionGoal.

Jerry goes on to give an example where he changes the default
values of AccuracyGoal and PrecisionGoal in NIntegrate[] to
integrate the function Exp[-x+2 y^2]. The result is very fast.

This post is to warn people that Jerry's reply was VERY misleading. 

There is a definite deficiency in NIntegrate[] that would be in the 

best interest of WRI to correct. In my original post I specified that
I was working with an InterpolatingFunction. In this case there is
*NOTHING* that I have been able to do to make NIntegrate "decent" -
except I now use Terry Robb's very nice routine ArrayIntegrate[]
that integrates a list of data (or I use Maple). 


Terry Robb writes:
>As I understand it, [Bob Singleton] had an array of data values,
>and he thought of fitting an InterpolatingFunction through it and
>then calling NIntegrate[]. This of course does turn out to be slow.
>
>It's a pity that NIntegrate[] doesn't realize that if it is dealing
>with an InterpolatingFunction[range,table] object, then it could
>directly produce the integral from the information in the table.
>After all D[] knows how to handle InterpolatingFunction's, so why
>not NIntegrate[] and Integrate[] too?

This is VERY good suggestion! Why not make NIntegrate[] simply use
the data points when it receives an InterpolatingFunction?!? 


BTW, the type of problem I'm doing can be rather common in physics. 

If you have a system that is described by some differential 

equations that you can only solve numerically (using NDSolve[] which 

gives it's output in the form of an InterpolatingFunction[]), and you 

then want to find the energy or some other other property that 

involves integrals over functions of the solutions, then you will run 

into trouble using NIntegrate[] (unless you just get lucky and only 

need to do a 1D integral). This is a serious deficiency on the part 

of NIntegrate and I hope that WRI takes the necessary steps to fix 

it. Until they do I recommend either Maple or Terry Robb's very nice
ArrayIntegrate[] (the reason it's so nice is because the program is
so short and elegant). 


Regards,

Bob Singleton





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