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Re: Numerical Determinants

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  • Subject: [mg12962] Re: [mg12922] Numerical Determinants
  • From: Hugh Walker <hwalker at>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 02:51:51 -0400
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hello at (Rod Pinna) wrote in [mg12922]:

I have a large square matrix, of 30x30 elements (and possibly  larger).
Each element is of the form

        Ai,j + Bi,j P

Where Ai,j and Bi,j are real numbers. Evaluation of this matrix  in
symbolic form is very slow. Obviously, numeric evaluation is  much
faster. What I want to do is evaluate, with M the matrix  above:


Nsolve seems to, as far as I can tell, first evaluate a symbolic
expansion of M, rather than numerically substituting numbers. Is  there
a way to get Mathematica to evaluate this in a purely numeric way?

I've tried Findroot, but the fuction is badly behaved around the  roots
of interest, and it doesn't find the roots I'm looking for. Any

Yes, I have a suggestion.  Consider the eigen-problem -a.x = p b.x.
Non-trivial eigenvectors exit provided Det[a + b p] = 0, which is your
situation.  Assuming Inverse[b] exists, the eigen values of m.x = p x
where m = -Inverse[b].a


will coincide with your p's.

I tested cases in which a and b are each random 10x10 matrices. The
results were the same, and timings for the two approaches were

Det = 9.0 sec
eigen = 0.0 sec

I hope this helps.

Hugh Walker
Professsor Emeritus
University of Houston

Gnarly Oaks

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