Re: equaltity of lists
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- Subject: [mg19077] Re: equaltity of lists
- From: "Drago Ganic" <drago.ganic at in2.hr>
- Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:35:00 -0400
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Hi there, Thanks for the answers, but I still have questions. 1. I wanted to test the "objects" in a mathematical and not in a structural way. Therefore I believe I have to use == (Equal) not === (SameQ). 2. My reasoning was as follows (I'm not a mathematician so maybe it's wrong) In Mathematics the Set is a very basic way to collect some objects together and treat them as one. In Mathematica the same thing (only finite sets) is implemented with a list with ONE difference: a list has an order and a Set has not. (You can never implement something without order in the computer - you can only neglect the order). So mathematically spoken the set {a, b} IS EQUAL TO the set {b, a}. I can get this behavior in Mathematica if I write Union[{b, a}] == Union[{a, b}] True But when I tread the objects {a,b} and {b,a} as lists the answer to the question should be false if we look at the list as a supplement to the set in a mathematical way. Of course the same is with a == a True and a == b a == b or x == x^2 x == x^2 Why not False? I don't see that this is only a structural question ("use SameQ, don't use Equal and you will get False"). The functions x and x^2 are mathematically not Equal, so an Equal should return False (the case x=1 is not important for function equality). Isn't a variable x just a function f (x) = x? 3. Just another example Simplify[(x^2-1)/(x-1)] 1+x But the two functions are not mathematically identical (point x=1). When I try to plot the function Plot [(x^2-1)/(x-1),{x,-2,2}] I don't get the graph of the rational function (x^2-1)/(x-1). Instead I get the graph of the linear function 1+x. When I ask Reduce [ (x^2-1)/(x-1) == 1 + x, x] True What with x = 1 ? Greetings Drago Ganic P.J. Hinton <paulh at wolfram.com> wrote in message news:Pine.LNX.4.10.9908030840160.1020-100000 at wabash.wolfram.com... > On 2 Aug 1999, Drago Ganic wrote: > > > Hi !! > > > > Why don't I get an answer (False) when I ask Mathematica > > > > {a,b}=={b,a} > > > > like the one I get with > > > > {1,2}=={2,1} > > False > > In order to get False as a result in your first example, you must use a > stronger logical test function than Equal[]. You need to use SameQ[]. > > In[1]:= {a,b} === {b,a} > > Out[1]= False > > -- > P.J. Hinton > Mathematica Programming Group paulh at wolfram.com > Wolfram Research, Inc. > Disclaimer: Opinions expressed herein are those of the author alone. >