Re: once more integrate
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- Subject: [mg20793] Re: [mg20735] once more integrate
- From: Wolfgang Schadow <schadow at netcom.ca>
- Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:13:46 -0500 (EST)
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Reply from Wolfram: > In[4]:= Integrate[1/x^2,{x,-2,2}] > > Out[4]= Infinity (correct) > > In[5]:= Integrate[1/x^2,{x,-Abs[a],2}] /. a -> 2 > > Out[5]= -1 (not correct) > > In[6]:= Integrate[1/x^2,{x,-Abs[a],2}] > > 1 1 > Out[6]= -(-) - ------ > 2 Abs[a] > > In[7]:= Integrate[1/x^2,{x,-a,a}] > > -2 > Integrate::idiv: Integral of x does not converge on {-a, a}. > > -2 > Out[7]= Integrate[x , {x, -a, a}] > > In the first case Mathematica gives the corrcet answer, in the > second case it overlooks the singularity. In the third case the > answer is at least not wrong. > > Wolfgang Schadow > > ======================================================================== > Wolfgang Schadow Phone: +1-604-222-1047 ext. 6453 (office) > TRIUMF +1-604-875-6066 (home) > Theory Group FAX: +1-604-222-1074 > 4004 Wesbrook Mall > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 2A3 email: schadow at triumf.ca > Canada www : http://www.triumf.ca/people/schadow > > ======================================================================== > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hello, > > Thank you for the email. > > 1) You cannot do a replacement after and integral as you have done. The > reaon is that Mathematica evaluates the integral first, and then does the > replacement. > > 2) If you make the integral in this case a function of a as follows: > > In[1]:= f[a_]:= Integrate[1/x^2, {x, -Abs[a], 2}] > > Then you can then evaluate the integral correctly by passing 2 to the > integral before it is evaluated: > > In[2]:= f[2] > > Out[2]= Infinity > > In the following case: > > In[3]:= Integrate[1/x^2, {x, -Abs[a], 2}] > > You do get an incorrect answer, but it is the same answer as the one you > would get if you did it by hand. The Fundamental Theorem of calculus is > "dumb" in that it doesn't know there is a singularity at x=0. You can > only use the Fundamental Theorem of calculus if you know that your > function is well behaved and has no singularities. > > If you don't give an exact value for a bound, Mathematica will try to > use the Fundamental Theorem of calculus, which gives a bad result in this > case. > > As long as you specify an exact value for a before hand or in place of > a, you will get the correct answer. > > Sincerely, > > Jeffrey Bryant > Technical Support > Wolfram Research, Inc. > support at wolfram.com ======================================================================== Wolfgang Schadow Phone: +1-604-222-1047 ext. 6453 (office) TRIUMF +1-604-875-6066 (home) Theory Group FAX: +1-604-222-1074 4004 Wesbrook Mall Vancouver, B.C. V6T 2A3 email: schadow at triumf.ca Canada www : http://www.triumf.ca/people/schadow ========================================================================
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- From: Wolfgang Schadow <schadow@netcom.ca>
- once more integrate