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RE: Re: Solving an equation

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  • Subject: [mg34516] RE: [mg34476] Re: Solving an equation
  • From: "DrBob" <majort at cox-internet.com>
  • Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 02:42:30 -0400 (EDT)
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PSi,

You've changed the problem by making b diagonal.  The same solution
technique works even if you hadn't done that... but gives a solution
that involves division by b3 (which you've now made 0).  Hence the
solution for non-diagonal b doesn't include the other solution as a
special case.

Also, with diagonal b, notice that unless c is diagonal as well, the
condition c.b==b.c implies b1==b4.  (Evaluate c.b-b.c to see what I
mean.)  Yet the solution involves division by b1-b4.  Hence this
solution is valid only if c is also diagonal.  You can verify this as
follows:

a = {{1, 0}, {0, 1}};
b = {{b1, 0}, {0, b4}};
c = {{c1, c2}, {c3, c4}};
Solve[{a x + b y == c, c.b == b.c}, {x, y, c2, c3}]

{{c2 -> 0, c3 -> 0, 
  x -> -((b4*c1 - b1*c4)/
     (b1 - b4)), 
  y -> -((-c1 + c4)/
     (b1 - b4))}}

By the way,

b.c - c.b

{{0, b1 c2 - b4 c2}, {-b1 c3 + b4 c3, 0}}

Rather than making b or c diagonal, you might solve for b2 and b3 this
way:

b = {{b1, b2}, {b3, b4}};
c = {{c1, c2}, {c3, c4}};
Solve[{c.b == b.c}, {b2, b3}]

{{b2 -> ((b1 - b4)*c2)/
    (c1 - c4), b3 -> 
   ((b1 - b4)*c3)/(c1 - c4)}}

In general... I think there's more going on here than you've realized.

Bobby Treat

-----Original Message-----
From: PSi [mailto:psino at tee.gr] 
To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
Subject: [mg34516] [mg34476] Re: Solving an equation

Nevermind, it's simple!
a = {{1, 0}, {0, 1}}
b = {{b1, 0}, {0, b4}}
c = {{c1, c2}, {c3, c4}}
Solve[{a x + b y == c, c.b == b.c}, {x, y}]
"PSi" <psino at tee.gr> wrote in message news:...
>
> I want to solve the following equation with Mathematica 4.1:
> a*x+b*y=c
> where x, y are the unknown scalars,
> a={{1,0},{0,1}},
> b={{b1,b2},{b3,b4}},
> c={{c1,c2},{c3,c4}},
> the matrices b, c commute, and the matrix b is not a scalar multiple
of the
unit
> matrix a.
> Could anybody help?
>
>
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