Re: A FullSimplify Problem
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- Subject: [mg41099] Re: A FullSimplify Problem
- From: "Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" <weh at snafu.de>
- Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 03:59:59 -0400 (EDT)
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Even if we consider only the case 0<a<1 I have still problems with the integral, f[a_]:=Integrate[h[x,a],{x,0,Pi}] where the integrand is defined as h[x_,a_]:=Log[1- 2*a*Cos[x] + a*a] Instead of attempting to Simplify I went back one step and tried to answer again the question: what is actually the value of the integral? In my previous message I considered the function differentiated with respect to and "proved" that f[a] == 2*Pi*Log[a]. Still: that derivation exchanged several limiting procedures. Hence I wanted to see independent confirmation. (1) My good old Gradsteyn/Ryshik has an entry similar to the one in question here, viz. 4.397 No. 6: Integrate[Log[1 - 2a Cos[x] + a*a] Cos[n x], {x,0,Pi}] = -Pi a^n /n for a^2 < 1 The right hand side looks fine (and can be confirmed numerically in Mathematica) as long as n > 0 (1,2,3,...) but it does not help when n=0 because the limit n->0 does not exist. (2) Now I consider the series expansion of the integrand with respect to a: In[1] = Series[Log[1 - 2a Cos[x] + a*a], {a, 0, 5}] // FullSimplify Out[1] = //OutputForm= 3 4 2 2 Cos[3 x] a Cos[4 x] a -2 Cos[x] a - Cos[2 x] a - ------------- - ----------- - 3 2 5 2 Cos[5 x] a 6 ------------- + O[a] 5 Hence the complete series expansion is Log[1 - 2a Cos[x] + a*a] = -2 Sum[a^k Cos[k x]/k, {k, 1, Infinity}] This series is absolutely convergent for 0<a<1. Integrating term by term gives In[2] = Integrate[Cos[k x], {x, 0, Pi] Out[2] = //OutputForm= Sin[k Pi] --------- k All terms vanish for integer k=1,2,3,... Hence the integral vanishes. This contradicts previous results. When I plot the integrand between 0 and Pi it also looks like the integral being zero. Performing NIntegrate (and specifying a numerically, e.g. a=0.4) on the original integrand leads to an error message claiming a spurious "strongly oscillating function". But by splitting the interval into {0,Pi/2} and {Pi/2,Pi} NIntegrate behaves well and gives opposite results for both parts. Hence the complete integral vanishes again. Summing up, I didn't find confirmation but contradiction. To me up to now this integral is a miracle (completely outside Mathematica). Despite the derivation I presented in my last previous message I do now believe that our integral is zero, mainly from considering the plot of the completely well behaved integrand. Hence: First it should be clarified analytically what the value of the integral is, then we should give Mathematica a next try. Regards, Wolfgang Andrzej Kozlowski wrote: > This seems unlikely since Mathematica 4.2 returns > > > FullSimplify[Integrate[Log[1-2a Cos[x]+a^2],{x,0,Pi}],{a>1}] > > > 4 ¥ð Log[a] > > which is double the right answer. With the assumption a<-1 the answer > is even worse (if returning a complex number when a real one is > expected is "worse" than returning twice the right answer): > > FullSimplify[Integrate[Log[1 - 2*a*Cos[x] + a^2], > {x, 0, Pi}], {a < -1}] > > Out[7]= > Pi*(2*I*Pi + Log[1/a^2]) > > Of course this does not prove that the unsimplified answer returned by > Mathematica is wrong, in fact numerical tests suggest that it is > probably right and the problem may be with FullSimplify. But I would > not count on it. > > > > Andrzej Kozlowski > Yokohama, Japan > http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~akoz/ > http://platon.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/andrzej/ > > > On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 05:22 pm, Ersek, Ted R wrote: > > >>At http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html >>I learned that >> Integrate[Log[1-2a Cos[x]+a^2],{x,0,Pi}] >> = 2*Pi*Log[Abs[a]] >> >>Mathematica knows how to do this integral, but gives a much more >>complicated >>result. Can anyone explain how to use FullSimplify and other >>transformations to show that the complicated result Mathematica gives >>is >>equivalent to the answer above? >> >>Thanks, >> Ted Ersek >> >> >> >> >> > >