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Re: Re: Integration

  • To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
  • Subject: [mg44060] Re: [mg43955] Re: Integration
  • From: "Peter Pein" <nospam at spam.no>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:00:20 -0400 (EDT)
  • References: <bmg0li$e9k$1@smc.vnet.net> <200310150859.EAA26393@smc.vnet.net>
  • Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

Curt,

Spend some minutes going through the introductory help material in the Help
Browser. ;-)

Your definition for f defines it as a function of one or more variables,
not as a simple expression.

In[1]:=
(* you thought, Alex did : *)
f = x;
Integrate[f[x], {x, x0, x1}]
Remove[f];
Out[2]=
Integrate[x[x], {x, x0, x1}]
In[4]:=
(* you thought you did : *)
f[x_] := x;
Integrate[f[x], {x, x0, x1}]
Remove[f];
Out[5]=
   2     2
-x0    x1
---- + ---
 2      2
In[7]:=
(* but you did: *)
f[x_] := x;
Integrate[f, {x, x0, x1}]
Out[8]=
-(f x0 ) + f x1


Peter Pein, Berlin
petsie at arcAND.de
replace && by || to write to me


----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Fischer" <crf3 at po.cwru.edu>
To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
Subject: [mg44060] [mg43955] Re: Integration


> Alex,
>
> Spend some minutes going through the introductory help material in the
Help
> Browser.
>
> Your definition for f defines it as a simple expression, not as a function
> of one or more variables.  But even after fixing this mistake, I couldn't
> get Mathematica to return a value for the indefinite integral.  Changing
the
> infinity to an arbitrary constant changed the result, though:
>
> In[12]:=
> Clear[f];
>
>
> In[13]:=
> \!\(\(f[\[Lambda]_] := \(\(\(2\) \(\[Pi]\)\(\ \)\(b\)\(\ \)\)\/a\) \((3 \(
> e\^2\) \((x\/\[Lambda]\^2 + \(\[ImaginaryI]\ y\)\/\(\
> \[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2\))\)
> 1\/\(\[Lambda] \((\[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2)\) \(\@\(\(a\^2\) \
> \[Lambda]\^2 - l1\^2\)\) \@\(\(a\^2\) \[Lambda]\^2 - l2\^2\)\) - \(\((x\/\
> \[Lambda]\^2 + \(\[ImaginaryI]\ y\)\/\(\[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2\))\)\^3\)
> \(\(a\^2\
> \) \(\[Lambda]\^3\) \((\[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2)\)\)\/\((\(\@\(\(a\^2\) \
> \[Lambda]\^2 - l1\^2\)\) \@\(\(a\^2\) \[Lambda]\^2 - l2\^2\))\)\^3)\);\)\)
>
>
> In[14]:=
>
>
> Integrate[f, {\[Lambda], \[Xi], \[CapitalXi]}]
>
>
> Out[14]=
> f (-\[Xi] + \[CapitalXi])
>
> Does that help any?
>
> --
> Curt Fischer
>
>
> "Alex" <akhmel at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bmg0li$e9k$1 at smc.vnet.net...
> > I tried to compute some elementary integrals (see below). Mathematica
> > spent a couple of hours and didn't give any result. Any advice?
> >
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> > y\)\/\(\
> > \[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2\))\)
> >                 1\/\(\[Lambda] \((\[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2)\)
> > \(\@\(\(a\^2\) \
> > \[Lambda]\^2 - l1\^2\)\) \@\(\(a\^2\) \[Lambda]\^2 - l2\^2\)\) -
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> > \[Lambda]\^2 + \(\[ImaginaryI]\ y\)\/\(\[Lambda]\^2 - e\^2\))\)\^3\)
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> >
> > Alex
> >
>
>


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