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Re: Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software

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  • Subject: [mg50311] Re: Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software
  • From: "Steve Luttrell" <steve_usenet at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:51:06 -0400 (EDT)
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When the document is exported as LaTeX the footnotes appear at the foot of
the page where you (and I) want them
to be.

Steve Luttrell

"DrBob" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:cghg1t$jfv$1 at smc.vnet.net...
> Thanks for doing all that research for us!
>
> However, footnotes don't go at the end of a document--they go at the foot
of each page.
>
> Endnotes are getting to be the new standard, but they're far less useful
to a reader.
>
> Bobby
>
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:22:23 -0400 (EDT), Steve Luttrell
<steve_usenet at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I have already used Publicon to write several papers (I had a busy
> > weekend!). It fills in a much needed gap that Mathematica itself doesn't
> > cover, at least not without a great deal of additional effort on my
part. As
> > I see it, Publicon aims to do what Scientific Word does but in a way
that is
> > preferable to Mathematica users.
> >
> > The several papers I wrote in Publicon were translations from papers I
had
> > already authored in Mathematica, but which I wanted to convert to a form
> > from which I could easily generate LaTeX (I wanted to submit them to
> > arXiv.org) I found that I could NOT simply read a Mathematica notebook
into
> > Publicon and have it behave in the same way as a notebook I had created
> > directly in Publicon (e.g. Save As LaTeX did NOT work cleanly). However,
I
> > did find that copying material across from a Mathematica notebook (using
> > Copy As Cell Expression) worked very well, but I had to do recreate the
> > hyperlinks (cross references) afresh within Publicon in order for them
to
> > work correctly there. If I didn't do this then "Gather Backmatter"
(which
> > appears to rely on the special way that Publicon creates its cross
> > references) did not work correctly.
> >
> > It would save me a great deal of time if I could automatically generate
a
> > Publicon notebook from a previously generated Mathematica notebook, so
that
> > it behaves as if it had been generated within Publicon in the first
place.
> > Maybe it is possible to design a filter to do this conversion
automatically;
> > this should be possible because there were only a few fairly
well-defined
> > conversion problems I encountered, and which I fixed manually.
> >
> > I have found NO problems at all in reading a Publicon notebook using
> > Mathematica. However, it seems that a notebook created using Publicon
knows
> > that it originated there, so that double-clicking on it (in Windows)
fires
> > up Publicon rather than Mathematica (and vice versa for a notebook
created
> > in Mathematica).
> >
> > Publicon DOES support footnotes. You do "Insert Note" followed by
"Gather
> > Backmatter". The various footnotes (and references) are collected at the
end
> > of the document as backmatter. If you then "Save As LaTeX" you get a TeX
> > file that compiles to give you the expected footnotes.
> >
> > To balance out the above positive comments I do have some criticisms.
There
> > are some Publicon message windows that sit on top of all other windows
> > whatever you do to hide them. There are some characters that don't
translate
> > to LaTeX - e.g. I had to replace \[And] by \[Intersection] to make the
> > exported LaTeX work correctly. I found that bold font in equations does
not
> > survive in the exported LaTeX, so now my vectors look like scalars. My
> > habitual use of \[AlignmentMarker] has come home to haunt me because it
is
> > not translated to the (obvious) box form in LaTeX, so the exported LaTeX
> > does not compile correctly. However, all of these problems are either
benign
> > or else manually fixable.
> >
> > Anyway, my overall impression of Publicon is very positive. It has a way
to
> > go to equal Scientific Word (which has been around for a while now), but
the
> > basic framework is already there in Publicon, and is very extensible via
> > custom style sheets to define your own ways of generating LaTeX for
> > instance; this sort of customisation is easy for someone who is already
> > familiar with Mathematica's style sheets. I have already used this to
create
> > custom bibliography styles in the exported LaTeX; it works exactly as
> > advertised.
> >
> > I hope that Publicon is subsumed into a future release of Mathematica,
so
> > that Mathematica (Publicon) is analogous to a souped up version of
> > Scientific WorkPlace (Scientific Word) - check out
> > http://www.sciword.demon.co.uk/ to see what I mean. This would avoid the
> > time taken to convert from a Mathematica-authored notebook to something
that
> > works correctly in Publicon.
> >
> > Steve Luttrell
> >
> > "Bobby R. Treat" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:cgcicp$eo7$1 at smc.vnet.net...
> >> This appears to be an elaborate waste of binary bits.
> >>
> >> Rather than make Mathematica do pagination right (and a few other
> >> simple things), they made a new stand-alone LaTex derivative with no
> >> computational capability.
> >>
> >> MUCH of the content I'd likely put into Publicon, if I used it, would
> >> originate in Mathematica. But conversion is a one-way street.
> >>
> >> Note that Publicon doesn't support footnotes; something every word
> >> processor does do, and something every technical document needs.
> >>
> >> On the PLUS side, it's cheap--except in terms of the learning curve.
> >> The online tour makes using it look very involved.
> >>
> >> Bobby
> >>
> >> newsdesk at wolfram.com (Wolfram Research) wrote in message
> > news:<cg20f3$od7$1 at smc.vnet.net>...
> >> > Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon
> >> > Software
> >> >
> >> > Wolfram Publicon, a powerful new publishing tool based on the
> >> > underlying document technology of Mathematica, is now available
> >> > to purchase as a download for Windows and Mac OS X.
> >> >
> >> > Created for the growing number of academic researchers,
> >> > students, and industry professionals who need to create
> >> > precisely formatted technical documents in XML and other
> >> > structured data formats, Publicon incorporates many exciting
> >> > features including inline math and chemistry typesetting,
> >> > publisher-specific style sheets, and a scrolling WYSIWYG
> >> > interface ideal for online presentation.
> >> >
> >> > With Publicon, users can compose more engaging technical
> >> > documents that intuitively incorporate complex scientific
> >> > research. Mathematica users will especially appreciate
> >> > Publicon's unique ability to understand and identify math. All
> >> > Mathematica work, including dynamic 2D and 3D plots, can be
> >> > pasted directly into Publicon documents. Publicon will preserve
> >> > the mathematical content so the work may be evaluated at any
> >> > time in Mathematica.
> >> >
> >> > Heralded as a "major advance" by Open Access publisher BioMed
> >> > Central, Publicon was built to take the guesswork and hassle out
> >> > of formatting technical documents for publication. Combining
> >> > ease of use with cutting-edge technology, Publicon is the first
> >> > choice for composing structured technical documents for
> >> > electronic or print publication.
> >> >
> >> > For more information, please visit:
> >> > http://www.wolfram.com/publicon
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> -- 
> DrBob at bigfoot.com
> www.eclecticdreams.net
>



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