Re: Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg50311] Re: Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software*From*: "Steve Luttrell" <steve_usenet at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk>*Date*: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:51:06 -0400 (EDT)*References*: <cg20f3$od7$1@smc.vnet.net> <cgcicp$eo7$1@smc.vnet.net> <200408241022.GAA06691@smc.vnet.net> <cghg1t$jfv$1@smc.vnet.net>*Sender*: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

When the document is exported as LaTeX the footnotes appear at the foot of the page where you (and I) want them to be. Steve Luttrell "DrBob" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:cghg1t$jfv$1 at smc.vnet.net... > Thanks for doing all that research for us! > > However, footnotes don't go at the end of a document--they go at the foot of each page. > > Endnotes are getting to be the new standard, but they're far less useful to a reader. > > Bobby > > On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:22:23 -0400 (EDT), Steve Luttrell <steve_usenet at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk> wrote: > > > I have already used Publicon to write several papers (I had a busy > > weekend!). It fills in a much needed gap that Mathematica itself doesn't > > cover, at least not without a great deal of additional effort on my part. As > > I see it, Publicon aims to do what Scientific Word does but in a way that is > > preferable to Mathematica users. > > > > The several papers I wrote in Publicon were translations from papers I had > > already authored in Mathematica, but which I wanted to convert to a form > > from which I could easily generate LaTeX (I wanted to submit them to > > arXiv.org) I found that I could NOT simply read a Mathematica notebook into > > Publicon and have it behave in the same way as a notebook I had created > > directly in Publicon (e.g. Save As LaTeX did NOT work cleanly). However, I > > did find that copying material across from a Mathematica notebook (using > > Copy As Cell Expression) worked very well, but I had to do recreate the > > hyperlinks (cross references) afresh within Publicon in order for them to > > work correctly there. If I didn't do this then "Gather Backmatter" (which > > appears to rely on the special way that Publicon creates its cross > > references) did not work correctly. > > > > It would save me a great deal of time if I could automatically generate a > > Publicon notebook from a previously generated Mathematica notebook, so that > > it behaves as if it had been generated within Publicon in the first place. > > Maybe it is possible to design a filter to do this conversion automatically; > > this should be possible because there were only a few fairly well-defined > > conversion problems I encountered, and which I fixed manually. > > > > I have found NO problems at all in reading a Publicon notebook using > > Mathematica. However, it seems that a notebook created using Publicon knows > > that it originated there, so that double-clicking on it (in Windows) fires > > up Publicon rather than Mathematica (and vice versa for a notebook created > > in Mathematica). > > > > Publicon DOES support footnotes. You do "Insert Note" followed by "Gather > > Backmatter". The various footnotes (and references) are collected at the end > > of the document as backmatter. If you then "Save As LaTeX" you get a TeX > > file that compiles to give you the expected footnotes. > > > > To balance out the above positive comments I do have some criticisms. There > > are some Publicon message windows that sit on top of all other windows > > whatever you do to hide them. There are some characters that don't translate > > to LaTeX - e.g. I had to replace \[And] by \[Intersection] to make the > > exported LaTeX work correctly. I found that bold font in equations does not > > survive in the exported LaTeX, so now my vectors look like scalars. My > > habitual use of \[AlignmentMarker] has come home to haunt me because it is > > not translated to the (obvious) box form in LaTeX, so the exported LaTeX > > does not compile correctly. However, all of these problems are either benign > > or else manually fixable. > > > > Anyway, my overall impression of Publicon is very positive. It has a way to > > go to equal Scientific Word (which has been around for a while now), but the > > basic framework is already there in Publicon, and is very extensible via > > custom style sheets to define your own ways of generating LaTeX for > > instance; this sort of customisation is easy for someone who is already > > familiar with Mathematica's style sheets. I have already used this to create > > custom bibliography styles in the exported LaTeX; it works exactly as > > advertised. > > > > I hope that Publicon is subsumed into a future release of Mathematica, so > > that Mathematica (Publicon) is analogous to a souped up version of > > Scientific WorkPlace (Scientific Word) - check out > > http://www.sciword.demon.co.uk/ to see what I mean. This would avoid the > > time taken to convert from a Mathematica-authored notebook to something that > > works correctly in Publicon. > > > > Steve Luttrell > > > > "Bobby R. Treat" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message > > news:cgcicp$eo7$1 at smc.vnet.net... > >> This appears to be an elaborate waste of binary bits. > >> > >> Rather than make Mathematica do pagination right (and a few other > >> simple things), they made a new stand-alone LaTex derivative with no > >> computational capability. > >> > >> MUCH of the content I'd likely put into Publicon, if I used it, would > >> originate in Mathematica. But conversion is a one-way street. > >> > >> Note that Publicon doesn't support footnotes; something every word > >> processor does do, and something every technical document needs. > >> > >> On the PLUS side, it's cheap--except in terms of the learning curve. > >> The online tour makes using it look very involved. > >> > >> Bobby > >> > >> newsdesk at wolfram.com (Wolfram Research) wrote in message > > news:<cg20f3$od7$1 at smc.vnet.net>... > >> > Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon > >> > Software > >> > > >> > Wolfram Publicon, a powerful new publishing tool based on the > >> > underlying document technology of Mathematica, is now available > >> > to purchase as a download for Windows and Mac OS X. > >> > > >> > Created for the growing number of academic researchers, > >> > students, and industry professionals who need to create > >> > precisely formatted technical documents in XML and other > >> > structured data formats, Publicon incorporates many exciting > >> > features including inline math and chemistry typesetting, > >> > publisher-specific style sheets, and a scrolling WYSIWYG > >> > interface ideal for online presentation. > >> > > >> > With Publicon, users can compose more engaging technical > >> > documents that intuitively incorporate complex scientific > >> > research. Mathematica users will especially appreciate > >> > Publicon's unique ability to understand and identify math. All > >> > Mathematica work, including dynamic 2D and 3D plots, can be > >> > pasted directly into Publicon documents. Publicon will preserve > >> > the mathematical content so the work may be evaluated at any > >> > time in Mathematica. > >> > > >> > Heralded as a "major advance" by Open Access publisher BioMed > >> > Central, Publicon was built to take the guesswork and hassle out > >> > of formatting technical documents for publication. Combining > >> > ease of use with cutting-edge technology, Publicon is the first > >> > choice for composing structured technical documents for > >> > electronic or print publication. > >> > > >> > For more information, please visit: > >> > http://www.wolfram.com/publicon > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > DrBob at bigfoot.com > www.eclecticdreams.net >

**References**:**Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software***From:*"Steve Luttrell" <steve_usenet@_removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk>