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Re: Polylogarithm Integration - Bis
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*Subject*: [mg46160] Re: Polylogarithm Integration - Bis
*From*: "David W. Cantrell" <DWCantrell at sigmaxi.org>
*Date*: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 05:54:07 -0500 (EST)
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Bill Rowe <readnewsciv at earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 2/6/04 at 4:15 AM, D at D.gov (D) wrote:
>
> >Some more example for the integral:
>
> >Integrate[PolyLog[2, Exp[I*(x - y)]], {y, 0, 2*Pi}]
>
> >with x=5/2, I get 0 as expected. But with x=2.5 I get
>
> >19.634954084936204 + I*1.7763568394002505`*^-15
>
> >which is not close to zero!
>
> When you use x = 5/2 you are asking Mathematica to use exact numbers. So,
> Integrate returns the correct exact result of 0. But when you use 2.5 you
> are asking Mathematica to use machine precision numbers. Integrate does
> not seem to be coded to avoid problems with loss of precision that occurs
> with machine precision numbers.
You miss the point. Such a huge discrepancy cannot be explained in this
simple manner. See below.
> If you want to use machine precision, use
> NIntegrate instead of Integrate.
>
> When I use NIntegrate with x = 2.5 on this problem I get
>
> -1.551478671979467*^-6 - 7.615056976939538*^-7*I
>
> and a warning that numerical integration is converging too slowly.
> Clearly, this result is close to zero. And coupled with the warning
> strongly indicates there are issues with numerical precision for this
> particular integral.
Unfortunately you snipped the part where D had said:
"With x=-2.5 I get
44.964016795241896 + I*1.7763568394002505`*^-15
etc.
I have only one conclusion: there is a
bug with Integrate or PolyLog or both."
So now consider the following, obtained using version 5.0:
In[1]:= Integrate[PolyLog[2, Exp[I*(x - y)]], {y, 0, 2*Pi}]
Out[1]= If[x >= 2*Pi || x <= 0, Pi^3 - Pi*Log[-E^((-I)*x)]^2 +
2*I*Pi^2*Log[1 - E^((-I)*x)] - 2*I*Pi^2*Log[1 - E^(I*x)],
Integrate[PolyLog[2, E^(I*(x - y))], {y, 0, 2*Pi},
Assumptions -> !(x >= 2*Pi || x <= 0)]]
In[2]:= % /. x -> -5/2
Out[2]= Pi^3 - 2*I*Pi^2*Log[1 - E^(-((5*I)/2))] +
2*I*Pi^2*Log[1 - E^((5*I)/2)] - Pi*Log[-E^((5*I)/2)]^2
In[3]:= FullSimplify[%]
Out[3]= (1/4)*(5 - 4*Pi)^2*Pi
The above is essentially the same result as D got, but using exact numbers.
In[4]:= N[%]
Out[4]= 44.964016795241896
But the answer should presumably be 0 instead:
In[5]:= Integrate[PolyLog[2, Exp[I*(-5/2 - y)]], {y, 0, 2*Pi}]
Out[5]= 0
So I must agree with D that there is indeed a bug somewhere here.
David Cantrell
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