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Re: Re: typesetting fractions

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  • Subject: [mg46240] Re: Re: typesetting fractions
  • From: "Steve Luttrell" <steve1 at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:16:05 -0500 (EST)
  • References: <200401201008.FAA27408@smc.vnet.net> <200401220837.DAA17457@smc.vnet.net> <buqmch$raa$1@smc.vnet.net> <bv000n$jb8$1@smc.vnet.net> <200401260653.BAA29703@smc.vnet.net> <bv5dc7$srt$1@smc.vnet.net>
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Sorry for the delay; I only just noticed your posting:.

You assume wrong. I have used (La)TeX extensively in the past. I agree that
you get useful automatic page breaking in LaTeX, and figures can be
encouraged to float around in various ways. However, I always found that I
usually had to manually intervene to help the page breaking process to get
things exactly the way that I wanted. Even TeXperts I knew were unable to
find ways of completely automating things, probably because I couldn't
define what I wanted to do unambiguously. I certainly would not want to be
limited to floating the figures in a way that was limited by the LaTeX
typesetting model.

Now back to the present. I agree that page breaking in Mathematica is less
intelligent than in LaTeX, but I don't see this as a big disadvantage
because I was used to manually intervening anyway to help LaTeX produce the
final publication quality output. I occasionally back-slide and have a peek
at LaTeX again, but I come straight back to Mathematica every time because
it more-or-less does everything I want in one software package.

Steve Luttrell

"Murray Eisenberg" <murray at math.umass.edu> wrote in message
news:bv5dc7$srt$1 at smc.vnet.net...
> You miss the whole point of the complaints about page-breaking.
> Evidently you've never used a REAL typesetting program like (La)TeX.
>
> One wants the program to handle page breaks for printed material
> transparently, automatically -- normally FILLING a page to the bottom
> margin of typeset material.
>
> Of course, one should still have the option to override the automatic
> processing -- e.g., to force an extra line onto a page, or to force a
> line or two to the next page (and accordingly add slight amounts of
> additional space between lines on the shortened page) to avoid a "widow".
>
> And graphical content (or, for that matter, other particular kinds of
> cells) need to be able to "float".
>
> Steve Luttrell wrote:
> > You can control page breaks as follows:
> >
> > 1. Selecting a cell above or below the place where you want the page
break.
> > 2. Open up the Option Inspector (Ctrl Shift O in Windows).
> > 3. Click down to Cell Options \ Page Breaking.
> > 4. Select whatever page breaking options you want.
> >
> > Steve Luttrell
> >
> > "Bobby R. Treat" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > news:bv000n$jb8$1 at smc.vnet.net...
> >
> >>I couldn't agree more. I haven't even learned to control page breaks
> >>-- and that needs to be COMPLETELY transparent.
> >>
> >>Bobby
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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