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Re: Proving inequalities with Mathematica

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  • Subject: [mg52499] Re: [mg52491] Proving inequalities with Mathematica
  • From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 05:24:01 -0500 (EST)
  • References: <200411290622.BAA27997@smc.vnet.net>
  • Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

On 29 Nov 2004, at 15:22, Toshiyuki (Toshi) Meshii wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was wondering whether Mathematica is useful for proving a problem of
> inequality.
> My problem is as follows:
>
> Let An and Bn (n=1,2,3...) be real sequences.
> Some characteristics of these sequences are known.
>
> i) Abs[An+1/An] < 1
> ii) Abs[Bn+1/Bn] < 1
> iii) Sum[An, {1,Infinity}] = 0
> iv) Sum[An*Bn, {1, Infinity}] = alpha (note: a real number)
>
> Then I want to prove with Mathematica that
> 0 < Abs[alpha] < Abs[A1*B1]
>
> Does anyone have an idea?
>
> -Toshi
>

First of all, you have written your condition as

> Abs[An+1/An] < 1

Presumably you meant n+1 to be a subscript (if not the condition is 
always false).
Assuming that,  Mathematica can certainly be helpful in proving your 
claim to be false. Here is an example.

We define the sequence A[n] as follows:

A[1] = -1; A[2] = Log[2];
A[n_] = (-1)^(n - 1)/(n - 1);

You can check that the condition Abs[A[n+1]/A[n]]<1 is always 
satisfied. We also define the sequence B[n] by
B[i_] := A[i]
so that the condition

Abs[B[n+1]/B[n]]<1

is satisifed.

We check that (iii) is satisfied:


A[1]+A[2]+Sum[A[n],{n,3,Infinity}]//Simplify

0

Let's now compute alpha:


alpha=A[1]*B[1]+A[2]*B[2]+Sum[A[i]*B[i],{i,3,Infinity}]//N


2.12539

Let's see if your inequality holds:


Abs[alpha]<Abs[A[1]*B[1]]

False

Oops ...


Andrzej Kozlowski
Chiba, Japan
http://www.akikoz.net/~andrzej/
http://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~akoz/


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