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PDF/Illustrator Oddity

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  • Subject: [mg63051] PDF/Illustrator Oddity
  • From: AES <siegman at>
  • Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:25:24 -0500 (EST)
  • Organization: Stanford University
  • Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at

I'd appreciate any educational words on the following PDF/Illustrator 

I create a more or less full screen table of text and numbers using 
Mathematica running under Mac OS 10.3.9; set Page Setup to Portrait; 
select the table; and print it to PDF using Print Selection and Save as 
PDF.  If I open the resulting PDF file in Adobe Acrobat, it looks fine.

However I want to touch it up a bit, so I open the same PDF file in 
Adobe Illustrator CS 11.0.  First thing that happens is a dialog box 
pops up:

               Illustrator PDF:  Warnings

   This document contains PDF objects that have been reinterpreted.

   To preserve appearance, some text has been outlined.

               OK             Cancel

I click OK, the document opens, it looks OK -- but if I Select All 
(cmd-A) the Info palette says the document is 125 X 125 inches in size.  
On the other hand if I select an invisible box that contains only the 
stuff visible on screen, inside the artboard, the Info palette says it's 
9.6 X 7.5 inches, which is about right.

Also, it appears that every single text character or digit in every word 
or number on screen is now a separately selectable object (which is not 
a problem, for me anyway, but interesting).

So, I do a little editing -- change colors of some of the text, etc -- 
then Save or Save As the document as a new Adobe PDF file, and open the 
new file in Acrobat.  Document Size is now 125 inches square; entire 
table is now a tiny object on screen; I have to go to 1000% 
magnification to even see it (after I find it).

The workaround -- discovered after considerable hassle -- is:  Upon 
opening the PDF for the first time in Illustrator and seeing its size as 
125 X 125 inches, use the Select >> Object >> Clipping Masks menu 
command and delete whatever it is that is thereby selected (much of it 
apparently off screen) using cmd-X.  If you then do a Select All 
(cmd-A), the Info box now says 9.6 X 7.5 inches, and all is well from 
then on.

And for any Mathematica gurus who may have gotten this far down:  I can 
Export[] graphics objects (Plots, etc) directly to PDF files just fine.  
Any way to Export[] a Table to a PDF file under notebook control?

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