Re: Simplify
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- Subject: [mg58678] Re: Simplify
- From: David Bailey <dave at Remove_Thisdbailey.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:49:04 -0400 (EDT)
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paulvonhippel at yahoo wrote: > I'm having some trouble getting an expression to simplify in an obvious > way. (There seems to be a long tradition of users posting to this group > with similar troubles.) > > The expression is > > poly = p (p - 1) b^2 + s^2 > prod = Sqrt [poly] Sqrt[1/poly] > Simplify[prod, {0 < p < 1, s > 0, bϵReals}] > > which should return one, I think, but doesn't. > > I'd be grateful for suggestions. > > Thanks! > Paul > Hello, There is indeed a long tradition of users posting questions about Simplify and FullSimplify, however most of these are misunderstandings. In your case it is easier to consider simplifying Sqrt[x]Sqrt[1/x] (where x is your polynomial). This also fails unless you add the assumption that x>0 (which implies that x is also Real): Simplify[Sqrt[x]Sqrt[1/x],x>0] To see why this assumption is necessary consider the case where x=-1. You get Sqrt[-1]Sqrt[-1], which equals I*I, which is -1. The other thing to remember about Simplify and FullSimplify is that there is no guarantee of success, nor is the concept of the "simplest form" well defined - so you don't always get complete simplification even when it is valid. David Bailey http://www.dbaileyconsultancy.co.uk