Re: Working with factors of triangular numbers.
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- Subject: [mg78751] Re: [mg78490] Working with factors of triangular numbers.
- From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl>
- Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 06:16:13 -0400 (EDT)
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Well, I have found it! First of all the solution to the problem: replace the defintion of FF by the following one: FF[n_] := Module[{u = FactorInteger[n], s, k, partialQ, finalQ, space, sp}, s = u[[All,2]]; k = Length[u]; sp[m_] := Tuples[Range[0, m], {k}]; partialQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] <= s - 1]}]; finalQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Total[l] == s - 1}]; space = DeleteCases[sp /@ (s - 1), Alternatives @@ IdentityMatrix [k], Infinity]; k + Max[0, Length /@ DeleteCases[Backtrack[space, partialQ, finalQ, All], Array[0 & , k], Infinity]]] T can remain unchanged. (Can you see the difference between the codes?) The difference between Mathematica 5.2 and Mathematica 6 which caused this behaviour can be seen here: Mathematica 5.2 : Thread[False] "Nonatomic expression expected at position`1 in Thread[False]" Thread[False] However, in Mathematica 6 we get: Thread[False] False which is much better. This is, of course, a difference in "error handling" as I put it when I was speculating about it becaause Thread [False] should never actually occur (and it does not if we make the change I made in the code I am now sending). So I hope now everything will work fine for you. Andrzej Kozlowski On 8 Jul 2007, at 14:40, Andrzej Kozlowski wrote: > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate > (tm) Pro* > You are quite right. I have checked it and can now confirm that my > code works correctly with Mathematica 6 but not with Mathematica 5.2. > Indeed, with exactly the same definitions I get: > > > $Version > "6.0 for Mac OS X PowerPC (32-bit) (April 20, 2007)" > > T[5] > 1081 > > but > > $Version > > 5.2 for Mac OS X (February 24, 2006) > > T[5] > > 10011 > > which is completely wrong. There seems to be some very > fundamental difference between Mathematica 5.2 and Mathematica 6. I > don't think the diffeence is between the Backtrack functions in the > Combinatrica packages, because I used the old one a number of times > in the past and it worked fine. I have to admit that at the moment > I am completely baffled. Although I can't right now devote much > more time to this problem, I think finding out what it is that > makes the difference here is important. I can now see that the > difference lies in the function FF. For example, in Mathematica 6: > > FF[576] > 4 > > but in Mathematica 5.2: > > > > FF[576] > > "Nonatomic expression expected at position `1` Thread[False] > > 2 > > It suggests that the difference may lie in error handling. I hope > someone reading this will see where the problem lies and let us > know. If not, I will try to discover it myself, but it won't be > very soon. > I don't think this alone is quite good enough reason to upgrade to > version 6, but there are plenty of better ones and that would solve > your immediate problem ;-) > > Andrzej Kozlowski > > > > > > > On 8 Jul 2007, at 13:25, Diana Mecum wrote: > >> Andrzej, >> >> I copied your code verbatim, except for DiscreteMath Combinatorica. >> >> With Mathematica 5.2, a pc and a fresh kernel, I get: >> >> <<DiscreteMath`Combinatorica` >> >> FF[n_] := Module[{u = FactorInteger[n], s, k, partialQ, finalQ, >> space, sp}, >> s = u[[All,2]]; k = Length[u]; sp[m_] := Tuples[Range[0, m], >> {k}]; >> partialQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || >> !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] <= s - 1]}]; >> finalQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || >> !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] == s - 1]}]; >> space = DeleteCases[sp /@ (s - 1), Alternatives @@ >> IdentityMatrix >> [k], >> Infinity]; k + Max[0, Length /@ DeleteCases[Backtrack[space, >> partialQ, >> finalQ, All], Array[0 & , k], Infinity]]] >> >> T[n_] := Block[{k = 1, $Messages}, >> While[k++; FF[k*((k + 1)/2) - 1] < n, Null]; k*((k + 1)/2)] >> >> Map[T, Range[7]] >> {3,15,91,1431,10011,218791,8378371} >> >> Diana M. >> >> On 7/7/07, Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl> wrote: *This >> message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* >> You must have made some mistake. >> >> Let me do it all form the beginning, with Mathematica 6.0 for Mac and >> fresh kernel: >> >> << Combinatorica` >> >> FF[n_] := Module[{u = FactorInteger[n], s, k, partialQ, finalQ, >> space, sp}, >> s = u[[All,2]]; k = Length[u]; sp[m_] := Tuples[Range[0, m], >> {k}]; >> partialQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || >> !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] <= s - 1]}]; >> finalQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || >> !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] == s - 1]}]; >> space = DeleteCases[sp /@ (s - 1), Alternatives @@ >> IdentityMatrix >> [k], >> Infinity]; k + Max[0, Length /@ DeleteCases[Backtrack[space, >> partialQ, >> finalQ, All], Array[0 & , k], Infinity]]] >> >> T[n_] := Block[{k = 1, $Messages}, >> While[k++; FF[k*((k + 1)/2) - 1] < n, Null]; k*((k + 1)/2)] >> >> Map[T, Range[7]] >> {3, 15, 55, 253, 1081, 13861, 115921} >> >> which is what you expected? >> >> Andrzej Kozlowski >> >> >> >> On 7 Jul 2007, at 22:40, Diana Mecum wrote: >> >> > Andrzej, >> > >> > I appreciate all of the work you have done with my question. >> > >> > I tested this latest update, and got >> > >> > Map[T, Range[6]] >> > {3,15,91, 1431, 10011, 218791} >> > >> > The expect that the first 6 terms would be: >> > >> > {3,15,55,253,1081,13861} >> > >> > I used the first's e-mail code for T, and the second code for FF. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Diana >> > >> > On 7/7/07, Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl> wrote: *This >> > message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) >> Pro* >> > I did not intend to work any more on this code, because, as I wrote >> > earlier, it is certiany possible to implement the same idea much >> > faster wihtout using the Combinatorica package, but then I >> noticed a >> > very blatant inefficiency in the posted code and felt obliged to >> > correect it. Here is the corrected version of the function FF. The >> > fucntion T is unchanged. >> > >> > Andrzej Kozlowski >> > >> > FF[n_] := >> > Module[{u = FactorInteger[n], s, k, partialQ, finalQ, space, sp}, >> > s = u[[All, 2]]; k = Length[u]; sp[m_] := Tuples[Range[0, m], >> {k}]; >> > partialQ[l_List] := >> > And @@ >> > Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 &, k] || Not[MemberQ[Most[l], Last >> > [l]]], >> > Thread[Total[l] <= s - 1]}]; >> > finalQ[l_List] := >> > And @@ >> > Flatten[{Last[l] == Array[0 &, k] || Not[MemberQ[Most[l], Last >> > [l]]], >> > Thread[Total[l] == s - 1]}]; >> > space = >> > DeleteCases[ sp /@ (s - 1), Alternatives @@ (IdentityMatrix >> [k]), >> > Infinity]; >> > k + Max[0, >> > Length /@ >> > DeleteCases[Backtrack[space, partialQ, finalQ, All], Array >> [0 &, >> > k], >> > Infinity]]] >> > >> > >> > On 6 Jul 2007, at 20:26, Andrzej Kozlowski wrote: >> > >> > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate >> > > (tm) Pro* >> > > On 3 Jul 2007, at 18:23, Diana wrote: >> > > >> > >> Math folks, >> > >> >> > >> I first generate a list of triangular numbers: >> > >> >> > >> 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, ... >> > >> >> > >> and then subtract one from each as: >> > >> >> > >> 0, 2, 5, 9, 14, 20, ... >> > >> >> > >> I am trying to find the smallest triangular number (minus one) >> > which >> > >> can be written as a product of "n" distinct factors, each factor >> > > 1. >> > >> >> > >> For example: >> > >> >> > >> a(2) = 15, because 2*7 + 1 = 15. >> > >> a(3) = 55, because 2*3*9 + 1 = 55. >> > >> >> > >> I have worked with Divisors and FactorInteger, but am getting >> > bogged >> > >> down with repeated terms. Can someone think of a neat trick >> to work >> > >> this problem? >> > >> >> > >> Diana M. >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > I wil start with a grumble. Unfortunately your problem is not, in >> > > my judgment, solvable by means of any nice mathematics, >> because you >> > > do not require the factors to be mutually prime, that is, not >> to be >> > > divisible by the same prime. Without that one can't make use of >> > > uniqueness of prime decomposition and that in this kind of >> problems >> > > generally means that brute force has to be used. (I have a much >> > > nicer solution of the same problem when the factors are >> required to >> > > be mutually prime) >> > > >> > > So now I will present a 'brute force" argument, whose main virtue >> > > is that it can be much improved (but I will not do so). I will >> use >> > > the combinatorica package, which, in Mathematica 6.0 is loaded >> like >> > > this: >> > > >> > > << Combinatorica` >> > > >> > > I want to make use of the Backtrack function in this package. >> (This >> > > is the main weakness of this approach and the point which can be >> > > greatly improved). Here is an auxiliary function, which uses >> > > backtracking: >> > > >> > > FF[n_] := Module[{u = FactorInteger[n], s, k, partialQ, finalQ, >> > > space, sp}, >> > > s = u[[All,2]]; k = Length[u]; sp[m_] := Tuples[Range[0, m], >> > {k}]; >> > > partialQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[ >> > > { !MemberQ[IdentityMatrix[k], Last[l]], Last[l] == Array[0 >> > > & , k] || >> > > !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], Thread[Total[l] <= s - >> 1]}]; >> > > finalQ[l_List] := And @@ Flatten[{ !MemberQ[IdentityMatrix >> [k], >> > > Last[l]], >> > > Last[l] == Array[0 & , k] || !MemberQ[Most[l], Last[l]], >> > > Thread[Total[l] == s - 1]}]; space = sp /@ (s - 1); >> > > k + Max[0, Length /@ DeleteCases[Backtrack[space, partialQ, >> > > finalQ, All], >> > > Array[0 & , k], Infinity]]] >> > > >> > > For any positive integer n this computes the length of the >> largest >> > > factorization of n into distinct factors. For example: >> > > >> > > FF[2*3*9*11] >> > > 4 >> > > >> > > which is obviously right. There is some minor problem in the code >> > > that causes a Part error message to appear sometimes, without >> > > however affecting the result: >> > > >> > > FF[3] >> > > Part::partw:Part 2 of {1} does not exist. >> >> > > Part::partw:Part 2 of ( { >> > > {{0}} >> > > } ) does not exist. >> >> > > Set::partw:Part 2 of {1} does not exist. >> >> > > 1 >> > > >> > > However, I don't to spend time on trying to find out the cause of >> > > this message so on my main program I will simply suppress all >> > > messages: >> > > >> > > So now here is the main function T: >> > > >> > > T[n_] := Block[{k = 1, $Messages}, While[k++; FF[k*((k + 1)/2) >> - 1] >> > > < n, >> > > Null]; k*((k + 1)/2)] >> > > >> > > which for a given n looks for the smallest triangular number >> with n- >> > > distinct factors: >> > > >> > > Map[T, Range[8]] >> > > {3, 15, 55, 253, 1081, 13861, 115921, 1413721} >> > > >> > > I can't say that this is really fast, but the good news is >> that it >> > > certainly could be greatly improved. The Combinatorica general- >> > > purpose Backtrack function is very slow, and if someone writes a >> > > custom-made backtracking version suited to the problem at hand >> and >> > > compiles it, it will certainly become orders of magnitude faster. >> > > This has been done on this list in various situations several >> > > times. Unfortunately I can't spare the time necessary to do >> > > this. . Writing backtracking programs requires careful >> procedural >> > > programming and I am really out of practice in procedural >> > > programming, but there are several excellent examples in the >> > > archives written by Fred Simons and Maxim Rytin, and if this is >> > > important for you, you should either learn to do it yourself by >> > > studying these programs or persuade one of them to do it for >> you ;-) >> > > >> > > Andrzej Kozlowski >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------ >> > > Your proposition may be good >> > > But let's have one thing understood -- >> > > Whatever it is, I'm against it! >> > > And even when you've changed it or condensed it, >> > > I'm against it. >> > > >> > > Professor Quincy Adams Wagstaff >> > > President of Huxley College >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > "God made the integers, all else is the work of man." >> > L. Kronecker, Jahresber. DMV 2, S. 19. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "God made the integers, all else is the work of man." >> L. Kronecker, Jahresber. DMV 2, S. 19. >
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- Working with factors of triangular numbers.
- From: Diana <diana.mecum@gmail.com>
- Working with factors of triangular numbers.