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*Subject*: [mg89376] Re: Integral Questions
*From*: Jens-Peer Kuska <kuska at informatik.uni-leipzig.de>
*Date*: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 03:00:48 -0400 (EDT)
*References*: <g2b4oj$nm8$1@smc.vnet.net>
Hi,
*READ* the *M_A_N_U_A_L*
The correct syntax is
Integrate[(ArcSin[a/b/x + x/b] - c)/x, x]
and *not*
Integral[((arcsin(a/b/x+x/b))-c)/x,x]
and Mathematica find no closed form.
Regards
Jens
Graeme Dennes wrote:
> I am attempting to calculate the integrals with respect to x of the two
> functions:
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> 1.
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> x^2 + a
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> arcsin (---------) - c
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> bx
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> -----------------------------
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> x
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> 2. As above, squared.
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> where a, b, c are constants.
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> Mathematica 6 presents solutions which seem to depend on the form of the
> function entered, and in some instances, Mathematica does not read the
> syntax correctly.
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> Eg, using ((x^2 + a)/(bx)) and (x/b + a/b/x) as different (but correct)
> forms of the arcsin function yield different results!
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> Taking the first function, and entering it as:
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> Integral[((arcsin(a/b/x+x/b))-c)/x,x]
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> The answer presented is: - a arcsin arcsin x
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> -------- + -------- - c Log (x)
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> bx b
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> Note the missing argument of the first arcsin.
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> As noted, different results can be provided for different (but correct!)
> forms of the entered function. I do not understand why this would be so.
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> My questions:
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> 1. Are there (true) closed form solutions to both functions 1 and 2?
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> 2. Is there some technique required to cause Mathematica to read the syntax
> correctly?
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> 3. Is there some technique required to cause Mathematica to provide the
> correct solution, assuming a closed form solution exists?
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> 4. HELP!!
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> If the answer to Q1 is NO, then that would explain why the correct answer is
> not obtainable.
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> Any advice with this issue would be much appreciated.
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> Kindest regards,
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> Graeme
>
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