Re: Re: notation using # with exponents and &
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- Subject: [mg93201] Re: Re: notation using # with exponents and &
- From: Alexei Boulbitch <Alexei.Boulbitch at iee.lu>
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:04:34 -0500 (EST)
It seems me that this is like in an old mathematical joke:
Professor: "Please give me a definition of a diverging sequence".
Student: "In this case each next member is larger than the previous one".
Professor: "What you are telling me is a ladies dream, rather than a
rigorous mathematical definition".
The point seems to be that a rigorous and understandable definition is
missing in the story with the pure function.
The most clear is the following: statement: "Pure functions allow you to
give functions which can be applied to arguments, without having to
define explicit names for the functions". It is nevertheless, rather
obscure and requires intuition. In fact this statement says: "Here is a
trick to use, go ahead!", but does not explain anything. The least clear
is the following: "If you are familiar with formal logic or the LISP
programming language, you will recognize Mathematica pure functions as
being like \[Lambda] expressions or anonymous functions. Pure functions
are also close to the pure mathematical notion of operators." So, "if
you are familiar..". And what, if you are not? "...close to operators".
Is not it somebodies dream, rather than a definition?
What we have in fact is a set of badly described recipes that however,
perfectly work, and one may try to construct his own examples, if he has
feeling of how it should be done. But feeling, rather than knowledge,
because of the lack of a clear definition. Which is finally also not bad.
In article <ge6nik$ll4$1 at smc.vnet.net>,
Bill Rowe <readnews at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I don't see that what Mathematica defines as a pure function is
> inconsistent with the Wikipedia definition. For example,
> f = #^2&
> Always returns the same value for the same argument and has no
> I/O side effect, meeting both requirements for Wikipedia's
> definition of a pure function.
I guess I get confused, or led astray, by exactly how the words in the
Wiki definition are to be interpreted. For example
f = #^x &
seems to me to be a function with an argument (the "#"), and a -- what
shall we call it? -- a "parameter" (the "x"); and this construct returns
_different_ values depending on how the value of x is pre-set, or
changed, before calling it.
In other words, it does _not_ always return the same value for the same
I can see #1^#2 & as evidently a pure function. But if the function
definition also contains parameters that can be varied, is it still a
pure function? And if so, what does "pure" really mean?
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