Re: A Sum-like notation for iteration

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg102376] Re: A Sum-like notation for iteration*From*: cca at gregosetroianos.mat.br*Date*: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 05:30:30 -0400 (EDT)

Peter, 1. >>The example you give doesn't make sense to me Try this in Mathematica 6: Hold[Sum[f[x], {x, {a, b, c}}]] // TraditionalForm Before, I wrote "f" instead of "f[x]" because this was not relevant to my main point, which was the 2D formatting of the Sum expression, and not its interpretation. (In the latter case, of course, we can mantain just "f", this now meaning any expression (possibly) containing the summation symbol as a free variable.) The result I get in V6 (between the Hold) is this: \!\( \*UnderoverscriptBox[\(\[Sum]\), \(x = 1\), \({a, b, c}\)]f(x)\) In[2]:= $Version Out[2]= "6.0 for Microsoft Windows (32-bit) (April 28, 2007)" (I thought this was just a bug, to be fixed soon. But this formatting disappeared from V7.) This made me thinking they were seriously trying to find a 2D notation for list interators in Sum -- in the case above, a sum over the list {a,b,c}. The formatting of such a sum is not "moot". By analogy with the standard notation for sums over a set, it could be just this: \!\(\*UnderscriptBox["\[Sum]", RowBox[{"x", "\[Element]", RowBox[{"{", RowBox[{"a", ",", "b", ",", "c"}], "}"}]}]]\)f[x] In fact, this presentation is so natural that its incarnation as list iterators in V6 was long awaited by me in previous versions. (One could object to the use of Element above on the grounds that Element only works for built in "domains". However, this invokes a (false) compositionality principle for mathematical notation.) 2>>So far, I think Wolfram have done a >>pretty good job of "walking the tightrope" when deciding what >>notations to include. I agree. And the future is very promissing and exciting. For example, I think we=B4ll soon have multiscripts (for tensors) and other MathML elements. 3. >>how do we format something like Table[f[x], {x, 1, 100, 2}]? Here is an interesting thing which is probably little known. Mathematica correctly parses a 2D notation for summation with steps. Paste the following in a TraditionalForm cell: Module[{a=-2,b=10,s=3},\!\(\* UnderoverscriptBox["\[Sum]", GridBox[{ { RowBox[{"x", "=", "a"}]}, { RowBox[{ RowBox[{"\[CapitalDelta]", " ", "x"}], "=", "s"}]} }], "b"]f[x]\)] I noticed this in V4 and it still works in V7. Curiously enough, FormatValues@Sum does not inform us about this formatting. So, here is an example of something "available within the system" which someone might consider "non-standard". Carlos Cesar de Araujo Gregos & Troianos Educacional www.gregosetroianos.mat.br Belo Horizonte, MG, Brasil (31) 3283-1122