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Re: Re: Weird localization bug!

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  • Subject: [mg106079] Re: [mg106060] Re: [mg106009] Weird localization bug!
  • From: danl at wolfram.com
  • Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 05:32:47 -0500 (EST)
  • References: <200912300913.EAA17160@smc.vnet.net>

> Hi Derek,
>
> This indeed looks like a bug to me. Tracing the execution allows to reveal
> some details:
>
> In[1]:= makerule[5]//Trace
>
>
> Out[1]= {makerule[5],(5/.a$_Integer:>2 a)->5,{{a$_Integer:>2
> a,a$_Integer:>2
> a},5/.a$_Integer:>2 a,2 a},2 a->5,2 a->5}
> [...]

I asked about odd behavior this in-house yesterday. Either someone will
give a plausible explanation, or it will get filed as a bug report.

Daniel Lichtblau
Wolfram Research


> The real problem is that <input> is present in the definition *and*
>  the both sides of the rule <(input /. a_Integer :> 2 a) -> input>. It is
> well-known that Mathematica does aggressive dummy (pattern) variable
> renaming whenever it suspects a name collision in nesting lexical scoping
> constructs. Both Rule and RuleDelayed are scoping constructs, therefore
> placing rule within a rule where some of the pattern names are present in
> both external and internal rules (<input> in this case) is an invitation
> for
> the Mathematica variable-renaming mechanism. In this case, however, the
> renaming was obviously inconsistent - <a> was renamed to <$a> only on the
> left-hand side of the delayed rule.
>
> My guess would be that the binding in the internal RuleDelayed is
> performed
> at an earlier stage, since in nesting the scoping constructs the usual
> Mathematica convention is that inner scopes are favored in name collisions
> (but again, Rule and RuleDelayed do not always obey this convention). Then
> <a> gets replaced by <$a> indeed everywhere, but then the just mentioned
> internal binding sets the r.h.s. back to <a>. Regardless of whether or not
> this is indeed what happens, the final result is IMO not what it should
> have
> been.
>
> It is easy to see that the problem shows up "dynamically" during the rule
> application rather than when the definition is given:
>
> In[2]:= Hold[makerule[5]] /. DownValues[makerule]
>
> Out[2]= Hold[(5 /. a$_Integer :> 2 a) -> 5]
>
>
> Why the same did not happen in the second case is beyond me. Perhaps
> wrapping your numbers in <myrule> means for RuleDelayed  that there is no
> nesting of scoping, since <myrule> is not a scoping construct (while Rule
> is
> a scoping construct and thus there is direct nesting), and therefore
> renaming is not attempted.
>
> In the last case you seem to have blinded the renaming mechanism by using
> Block (the latter being a dynamic scoping construct).
>
> In any case, this looks like a bug.
>
> Regards,
> Leonid
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Derek Yates <yatesd at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't figure this out, and think it is a bug. I'm using Mathematica
>> 7.0.0 and get the same behaviour on both Mac OS X (10.5.8) and on
>> Windows XP.
>>
>> I want a function which creates a rule. The rule is of the form
>> "manipulated input" -> "input". Here is my first attempt (I have
>> simplified from what I really want to do, in order to illustrate the
>> bug):
>>
>> (1) makerule[input_] :=(input /. a_Integer :> 2 a) -> input
>> In: makerule[5]
>> Out: 2a->5
>>
>> (I expect to get 10->5)
>>
>> (2) makerule2[input_] := (input /. a_Integer :> 2 a)~myrule~input
>> In: makerule2[5]
>> Out: myrule[10,5]
>>
>> as expected
>>
>> Forcing an extra layer of localization seems to squash the bug:
>>
>> (3) makerule3[input_] :=Block[{inputcopy = input},(input /.
>> a_Integer :> 2 a) -> inputcopy]
>> In: makerule[5]
>> Out: 10->5
>>
>> Is it a bug, or have I misunderstood how the localization is meant to
>> work?
>>





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