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Re: Journals dying?, apparently rather slowly (was , I->-I)

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• Subject: [mg106820] Re: [mg106791] Journals dying?, apparently rather slowly (was , I->-I)
• From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akozlowski at gmail.com>
• Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:41:25 -0500 (EST)
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So much energy expanded to so little effect. RJF seems to like nothing 
more than knocking down straw opponents he has built himself. In fact,
quite often his methods is illustrated in his recent response to my 
post.

I wrote:

This is something in which Mathematica currently has no competitors 
among CAS systems and in fact in practice its only competitor is Java.
This functionality is entirely lost if you replace an .nb or .nbp file 
with a pdf. Its usefulness obviously depends on the area one applies it 
to.

In response quoted only the second line and then added from himself:


1. There is, by now, a well-established model for writing Java Applets 
for illustrating mathematical concepts. A google search will find a huge 
number of them. Mathematica, while providing a simple interface from the 
programmer level to (say) plotting, is hardly unique.

Great difference, as everyone can see. Lots of debating points scored by 
RJF - in his mind of course.

The same thing in this post. Who is he arguing with and about what?

I certainly have never predicted that Mathematica would take over the 
world. I have no idea what will happen in the future of computing, 
publishing or anything else, except one thing that I am pretty sure of. 
The world record in longevity is still held by Jeanne Calment of France 
(1875=961997) who died at age 122. That makes it easy to calculate the 
certain upper bounds on the basis of which I could venture to make 
certain predictions of the kind I already implied.  Any other has 
nothing to do with me.




On 23 Jan 2010, at 13:35, Richard Fateman wrote:

> I just checked my online catalog for names that include "computer" and
> "journal"  and got 945 hits.
>
> Now these are either online, or they appear in the catalog which is on line.
>
> Do you really think these are all going to be replaced by
> Mathematica-based dynamic .nb stuff anytime soon?
>
> Even stuff like
> 	Interactive multimedia electronic journal of computer-enhanced learning
> [electronic resource] : IMEJ of CEL
> (started in 1999).
>
> and what about
>
> 	International journal of applied mathematics and computer science /
> Technical University of Zielona
>
> That's in Poland.
>
> searching for mathematics AND journal  I got 600 hits.
> searching for mathematica AND journal  I got 18, e.g. Acta Mathematica
> Sinica
>
> So, in spite of all protestations to the contrary, journals seem to be
> around, and in fact new ones are starting up and apparently making
> money, even now.
>
> I'm not saying it's a good thing, of course.
>
> RJF
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