MathGroup Archive 2010

[Date Index] [Thread Index] [Author Index]

Search the Archive

Re: Why can't Mathematica tell when something is algebraically zero?

  • To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
  • Subject: [mg108154] Re: Why can't Mathematica tell when something is algebraically zero?
  • From: mmdanziger <mmdanziger at gmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:24:30 -0500 (EST)
  • References: <hn2ltj$3kt$1@smc.vnet.net>

Thanks for all the helpful responses.  This should clean up my
calculations substantially.

md

On Mar 8, 1:09 pm, mmdanziger <mmdanzi... at gmail.com> wrote:
> This isn't the first time that I've encountered something like this in
> Mathematica but in my calculations I got a term like this:
>
> r^2 Sqrt[(r^3 + r + 2)/r] - Sqrt[r^3 (r^3 + r + 2)]
>
> Which is obviously identically zero.  For some reason Simplify or even
> FullSimplify can't figure this out.  Once you get dependent on
> Mathematica these things are pretty disturbing...you forget about your
> own knowledge because the program tells you that things are
> different.  Then you sit there like an idiot checking an algebraic
> identity that any beginning precalc student should be able to solve no
> problem.
>
> Is there any way to get Mathematica to "wake up" to these things?  It
> has such a powerful algebraic engine for most things, why can't it see
> something simple like the above?  Do you really have to manually
> override and tell the program when things should be zero?
>
> For the time being I'll just sift through and test things by hand but
> I can't believe that there isn't a better way.
>
> Best,
> md



  • Prev by Date: Re: Why can't Mathematica tell when something is algebraically zero?
  • Next by Date: Re: union table
  • Previous by thread: Re: Re: Why can't Mathematica tell when something is algebraically
  • Next by thread: Re: Why can't Mathematica tell when something is algebraically zero?