Re: Solving a system of equations without having to define
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- Subject: [mg112586] Re: Solving a system of equations without having to define
- From: "Niels R. Walet" <niels.walet at manchester.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 02:05:03 -0400 (EDT)
I don't know of any way doing that, but I can see that you can find the outer limits of your variables: Define pol[n]:= Sum[ Binomial[n + 1, i] k^(n + 1 - i) Product[j t + mu, {j, 0, i - 1}], {i, 0, n + 1}] m[imax]=k^imax lambda /pol[imax]; n[imax-1]=k^(imax-1) lambda (k+imax t+mu)/pol[imax],.... ms[imax]=(k^imax lambda mu)/(imax t)/pol[imax];ms[imax-1]=k^(imax-1) lambda mu (2 k + imax t + mu))/((imax-1) t),.... This is enough to fully specify the solution, e.g., by recursive solution.... Niels Michael A. Gilchrist wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working with a model that consists of a series of coupled ODEs and I am > trying to study their equilibrium behavior. Below is > the code I use to define the equations and solve for the equilibrium state. > > (*-----------------------------------------------------*) > (*define the variables *) > imax = 3; > > valsI = Table[m[i], {i, 0, imax}]; > valsII = Table[ms[i], {i, 0, imax}]; > > (*generate the equations *) > eqnsI = Join[{lambda + t m[1] - (k + mu) m[0]}, > Table[k m[i - 1] - k m[i] + t (m[i + 1] (i + 1) - m[i] i ) - > mu m[i], {i, imax}] /. {m[imax + 1] -> 0}] ; > > eqnsII = Join[{mu m[0] + t ms[1] - delta ms[0]}, > Table[ t (ms[i + 1] (i + 1) - ms[i] i ) + mu m[i], {i, > imax}] /. {ms[imax + 1] -> 0}] ; > > (*solve the equation *) > sol = Solve[Map[0 == # &, Join[eqnsI, eqnsII]], > Join[valsI, valsII]]// Simplify; > > (*------------------------------------------------*) > > If I set imax to a small integer value such as 2 to 8, Mathematica crunches > out a solution quickly. As imax gets bigger, Mathematica still comes up with > a solution, but it gets ever more complex and difficult to calculate. > > Based on this behavior, I surmise there is a general solution to these > equations but it is sufficiently complex that I cannot intuit it from looking > at the solutions with imax = 2, 3, 4, .... I would love it if I could get > Mathematica to give me a general solution such that the variable imax does not > need to be explicitly defined. > > Does anyone know of a way to pose such a problem (i.e. solve a set of > equations where the exact number is unspecified) to Mathematica? Or is this > impossible? Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks for your attention to this matter. > > Mike > > > -- Prof. Niels R. Walet Phone: +44(0)1613063693 School of Physics and Astronomy Fax: +44(0)1613064303 The University of Manchester Mobile: +44(0)7905438934 Manchester, M13 9PL, UK room 7.7, Schuster Building email: Niels.Walet at manchester.ac.uk web: http://www.theory.physics.manchester.ac.uk/~mccsnrw