Insoluble marbles-in-urn problem?
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- Subject: [mg119982] Insoluble marbles-in-urn problem?
- From: John Feth <johnfeth at gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 04:11:34 -0400 (EDT)
There is a huge urn full of marbles, each marked with a single digit: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9. The marked marble quantities are uniformly distributed between all of the digits and the marbles are thoroughly mixed. You look away, choose 10 marbles, and put them in a black velvet bag. When you have some time, you look away, open the bag, and remove one marble. You close the bag, look at the digit on the marble, open a beer perhaps, and calculate the probability that there is at least one more marble in the bag with the same digit. The answer is brute forced below is there a formal way to obtain the answer? I don't believe the marbles-in-urn standby, the hypergeometric distribution, is any help at all. Copy and paste the algorithm below into Mathematica (V6 or newer) to find the surprising answer, estimated from a million tests in about 16 seconds. Timing[rag=Table[x,{x,1,1000000}];For[i=1,i<Length[rag]+1,i+ +,rag[[i]]=Table[RandomInteger[{0,9}],{n,1,10}]];bug=Table[x,{x, 1,Length[rag]}];For[i=1,i<Length[rag]+1,i+ +,bug[[i]]=RandomInteger[{1,10}]];selection=Table[rag[[i,bug[[i]]]],{i, 1,Length[rag]}];freq:=Table[Count[rag[[i]],selection[[i]]],{i, 1,Length[rag]}];bull=Tally[Characters[freq]];bullsort=Sort[bull];N[(Length[rag]- bullsort[[1,2]])/Length[rag],10]] Below are some definitions that might make the algorithm above a little less opaque. rag is a table of 10 digit random strings below (*rag=Table[x,{x,1,3}];For[i=1,i<Length[rag]+1,i+ +,rag[[i]]=Table[RandomInteger[{0,9}],{n,1,10}]];rag {{9,6,5,3,4,9,1,7,4,3},{8,5,7,7,0,0,5,6,3,5},{1,1,8,0,9,0,4,3,4,3}}*) bug is a table of which digit to pick from each rag[ [ ] ] above, i.e. the 4th from the left in rag[[1]], the 2nd from the left in rag[[2]], etc. (*bug=Table[x,{x,1,Length[rag]}];For[i=1,i<Length[rag]+1,i+ +,bug[[i]]=RandomInteger[{1,10}]];bug {4,2,5}*) selection is a table of the values of the digit picked above, i.e., the 4th digit in rag[[1]] is a 3, the 2nd digit in rag[[2]] is a 5, etc. (*selection=Table[rag[[i,bug[[i]]]],{i,1,Length[rag]}] {3,5,9}*) freq is a table of the number selected digits in rag[[n]], i.e., there are two 3s in rag[[1]], three 5s in rag[[2]], one 9 in rag[[3]], etc. (*freq=Table[Count[rag[[i]],selection[[i]]],{i,1,Length[rag]}] {2,3,1}*) bull tallies how many times the chosen digit occurs (*bull=Tally[Characters[freq]] {{Characters[2],1},{Characters[3],1},{Characters[1],1}}*) bullsort tallies the number of times the chosen digit occurs; the chosen digit occurred once one time (9's above), twice one time (4's above), and once three times (5's above) (*bullsort=Sort[bull] {{Characters[1],1},{Characters[2],1},{Characters[3],1}}*)
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