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Re: Expectation function

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  • Subject: [mg120288] Re: Expectation function
  • From: Darren Glosemeyer <darreng at>
  • Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 05:43:59 -0400 (EDT)
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On 7/14/2011 8:19 PM, paulvonhippel at yahoo wrote:
> I'm having a little trouble with the Expectation function in
> Mathematica. I'd like to calculate the expectation of the product of
> two independent variables. One has a standard normal distribution, the
> other is distributed F. It's obvious that the expectation is zero, but
> when I put the problem to Mathematica, all it does is echo the input.
> Here's the simplest way I've put the question:
>   Expectation[Z* F, F \[Distributed] FRatioDistribution[df, df], Z \
> [Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, 1]]
> Mathematica just echoes the input. I try adding some assumptions to
> ensure that the variance of the F distribution is defined.
>   Assuming[{df>= 3, df \[Element] Integers}, %]
> And Mathematica just echoes the input again.
> The other way to do this is to use TransformedDistribution and then
> use Mean. I get the same result that way.
> The problem I actually want to solve is more complicated, of course,
> but today I'll settle for solving the easier version. Many thanks for
> any pointers.

The \[Distributed] statements need to be given in a list. With that 
modification, you'll get a correct result:

In[1]:= Expectation[Z*F, {F \[Distributed] FRatioDistribution[df, df], Z 
\[Distributed] NormalDistribution[0, 1]}]

Out[1]= 0

Darren Glosemeyer
Wolfram Research

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