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Re: NDSolve issues with initial and boundary conditions (corrected characters)

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  • Subject: [mg119392] Re: NDSolve issues with initial and boundary conditions (corrected characters)
  • From: Oliver Ruebenkoenig <ruebenko at wolfram.com>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 06:54:49 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Arturo Amador wrote:


Arturo,

> Ok, I wasn't expecting that. The system is supposed to have a solution for which h[L] == 0 is satisfied. Maybe there is something wrong with the approximation I am using. I would like to know how is that you can implement the shooting method.

The shooting method is implemented.

tutorial/NDSolveBVP#659822336

There are some options for starting initial conditions, perhaps those are 
useful.

Oliver

> I will write a more complete post with the approximation I am using and some other methods I am using to solve the problem for which I am getting of course more issues. Is the bad thing of not being an expert in Mathematica :
> /
>
> --
> Arturo Amador Cruz
>
>
>
>
> On May 28, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Kevin J. McCann wrote:
>
>> Arturo,
>>
>> I looked into your problem a bit more. NDSolve should be able to solve
>> BVP's, but I tried a shooting method instead with the condition h[0]==0,
>> replaced with h[L]==alpha, and I varied alpha a bit to see if I could
>> find a solution for which h[0]=0. I couldn't. I found a minimum, but it
>> was not close to zero. Is it possible that your problem does not have a
>> solution for the conditions you stated? I don't know what the physics of
>> the problem is.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 5/25/2011 7:31 PM, Arturo Amador wrote:
>>> I am sorry, here is the message without the In[] Out[] labels and with
>>> the missing definitions:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the previous message, it had some weird characters I have
>>> corrected it and resend it.
>>>
>>> I am having some issues when trying to solve a system of three coupled
>>> differential equations numerically using NDSolve. I am trying to specify
>>> boundary conditions for two of the variables in the same point (point at
>>> L) and a boundary condition for the last variable   at zero. The
>>> mathematica code is:
>>>
>>>
>>> vd[x_]:=1/(2^(x+1) \[Pi]^(x/2) Gamma[x/2]) ;
>>> factorp[t_]:=(- 2 (Lambda Exp[t])^5 vd[3])/(3 * 8 g[t]^2);
>>> factorg[t_]:=  (2 (Lambda Exp[t])^5 vd[3])/3;
>>> factorh[t_]:=-((2 (Lambda Exp[t])^5 vd[3])/3 );
>>>
>>> vacuumlinearrhsp = (-((4 E^(-4 t) Sqrt[E^(2 t) Lambda^2] (-1 + n) g[t]^2)/ Lambda^4) - (12 g[t]^2)/(E^(2 t) Lambda^2 + 16 g[t]^2 p0[t])^(3/2)) factorp[t]
>>>
>>> vacuumcuadraticrhsg = ((24 E^(-6 t) Sqrt[E^(2 t) Lambda^2] (-1 + n) g[t]^4)/Lambda^6 + (216 g[t]^4)/(E^(2 t) Lambda^2 + 16 g[t]^2 p0[t])^(5/2)) factorg[t]
>>>
>>> vacuumcubicrhsh =(-((160 E^(-8 t) Sqrt[E^(2 t) Lambda^2] (-1 + n) g[t]^6)/Lambda^8) - (4320 g[t]^6)/(E^(2 t) Lambda^2 + 16 g[t]^2 p0[t])^(7/2)) factorh[t]
>>>
>>> (*Declarations*)
>>> Lambda = Sqrt[5] msig;
>>>
>>> L = -17090/10000;
>>> msig = 400;
>>>
>>> mp = 0;
>>> fp = 93;
>>>
>>> lambda = 2 (msig^2 - mp^2)/fp^2;
>>> gk0 = (lambda/24)^(1/2);
>>> pk0 = 1/2 fp^2;
>>>
>>> n = 4;
>>>
>>>
>>> sol = NDSolve[{D[p0[t], t] == vacuumlinearrhsp, 4 D[g[t]^2, t] + 3 h[t] D[p0[t], t] == vacuumcuadraticrhsg, D[h[t], t] == vacuumcubicrhsh, p0[L] == pk0, g[L]^2 == gk0^2,  h[0] == 0}, {p0, g, h}, {t, L, 0}, Method ->  {StiffnessSwitching,   Method ->  {ExplicitRungeKutta, Automatic}}];
>>>
>>> with output:
>>>
>>> Power::infy: Infinite expression 1/0. encountered.>>
>>>
>>> Infinity::indet: Indeterminate expression (0. Sqrt[5] ComplexInfinity)/\[Pi]^2 encountered.>>
>>>
>>> Power::infy: Infinite expression 1/0.^2 encountered.>>
>>>
>>> Infinity::indet: Indeterminate expression (0. Sqrt[5] ComplexInfinity)/\[Pi]^2 encountered.>>
>>>
>>> Power::infy: Infinite expression 1/0. encountered.>>
>>>
>>> General::stop: Further output of Power::infy will be suppressed during this calculation.>>
>>> Infinity::indet: Indeterminate expression 0. ComplexInfinity encountered.>>
>>> General::stop: Further output of Infinity::indet will be suppressed during this calculation.>>
>>> NDSolve::ndnum: Encountered non-numerical value for a derivative at t = -1.709.>>
>>>
>>> I am sure there is no singularity. I am getting this output no matter
>>> what value I am giving for h[0], as long as I specify the boundary
>>> condition in a point that is not L, it gives me this same error message.
>>> I have tried h[0.9L] and still the same. When h[t]=0 The system
>>> reduces to this:
>>>
>>> sol = NDSolve[{D[p0[t], t] == (Lambda Exp[t])^5/(24 Pi^2) ( (n - 1)/(Lambda Exp[t])^3 +3/((Lambda Exp[t])^2 + 16 p0[t] g[t]^2)^(3/2)), D[g[t]^2,t] == ((Lambda Exp[t])^5 * g[t]^4 )/(2 Pi^2) ((n - 1)/(Lambda Exp[t])^5 + 9/((Lambda Exp[t])^2 + 16 p0[t] g[t]^2)^(5/2)), p0[L] == pk0,  g[L]^2 == gk0^2}, {p0, g}, {t, L, 0}, Method ->  {StiffnessSwitching,   Method - {ExplicitRungeKutta, Automatic}}];
>>>
>>> For which I get nice solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You have functions factorp[t], factorg[t], and factorh[t] in your code without definitions.
>>>>
>>>> It would be a lot easier for us to cut and paste your stuff if you left off the In[] Out[] labels.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>> On 5/25/2011 6:59 AM, Arturo Amador wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the previous message, it had some weird characters I have
>>>>> corrected it and resend it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having some issues when trying to solve a system of three coupled
>>>>> differential equations numerically using NDSolve. I am trying to specify
>>>>> boundary conditions for two of the variables in the same point (point at
>>>>> L) and a boundary condition for the last variable at zero. The
>>>>> mathematica code is:
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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