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Re: Typesetting in Mathematica (TraditionalForm typesetting?)
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*Subject*: [mg125718] Re: Typesetting in Mathematica (TraditionalForm typesetting?)
*From*: Murray Eisenberg <murray at math.umass.edu>
*Date*: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 04:31:29 -0500 (EST)
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*Reply-to*: murray at math.umass.edu
I don't see any keyboard shortcuts for styles in the JournalArticle
stylesheet beyond the Cmd+1 through Cmd+9 that appear in the Default
stylesheet too.
Or are there some other ones?
On 3/29/12 4:01 AM, Brentt wrote:
> I just discovered the Journal article stylesheet, which has perfect
> key-board mappings for note taking. Thanks for everyone for the input
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Brentt<brenttnewman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, I've been using LaTeX for a few years now (before I began
>> university), and feel pretty confident in it. I use emacs when using LaTeX,
>> which has all kinds of keyboard shortcuts, so I have all kinds of shortcuts
>> and keyboard tricks when using it but I've found it very cumbersome to use
>> in any sort of quick and dirty way even when defining commands for oft used
>> commands.
>>
>> And on top of that, when taking notes in class, I find it much harder to
>> absorb the meaning of the equations while typing LaTeX code, so some WYSYWG
>> of Mathematica is nice. I have actually found Mathematica very near
>> adequate, but there are just a couple of these minor issues. It's so close
>> to be adequate it's almost frustrating that it is not completely adequate
>> given it seems like it could be if there were just a little more easy
>> customizability of the notebook..
>>
>> I'm just experimenting right now but I've been thinking it doesn't seem
>> all that more efficient to type say \int_{a}^b f(x) dx than esc int esc
>> ctrl+_ a ctrl+b f(x) dx The number of key presses are comparable. Output
>> of course is not near as nice as LaTeX but it is passable.
>>
>> I've been looking into Lyx too. I'm really experimenting trying to figure
>> out which would be best. Maybe mathematica won't work out so well, but it
>> seems so close.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Murray Eisenberg<murray at math.umass.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> Brentt,
>>>
>>> This is probably best conveyed off-list.
>>>
>>> I utterly love Mathematica for all sorts of things. But for note-taking
>>> during a class, I cannot imagine that Mathematica is a very efficient
>>> medium. After all, to get all kinds of symbols you have to use Esc or Ctrl
>>> sequence combinations, or awkward \[...\] strings, or menu buttons.
>>>
>>> I should think that if you don't want to use paper and pencil, it would
>>> be _much_ more efficient to use LaTeX markup. Thus, typing
>>>
>>> \int_0^{\infty} e^{\pi i t} dt
>>>
>>> than the corresponding thing in Mathematica. You could even, if you wish,
>>> omit the leading "\" symbols in such things and insert them later in a text
>>> editor with search-and-replace.
>>>
>>> And of course you can always import TeX mark-up text into Mathematica.
>>>
>>> There is a way to add new keyboard shortcuts, and as I recall that
>>> requires modifying one of Mathematica's system files. I'm sure others will
>>> post explanations about that.
>>>
>>> Murray
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/28/12 3:44 PM, Brentt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh that works. That helps a lot thanks :)
>>>>
>>>> I guess the only think remaining: is there anyway to turn a cell into
>>>> DisplayForm using a keyboard shortcut? Is there a way to define custom
>>>> shortcuts if one doesn't already exist?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Murray Eisenberg<murray at math.umass.**
>>>> edu<murray at math.umass.edu>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You do NOT have to evaluate an Input cell in order to convert it to
>>>>> TraditionalForm! Just select it (or all Input cells, if you wish), and
>>>>> use
>>>>> the menu item Cell> Convert To> Traditional Form.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/28/12 5:59 AM, Brentt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary of question: Is there a cell style that can do TraditionalForm
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> typesetting (without first evaluating an input cell?) And if this
>>>>>> capability exists, can the functionality be bound to a key combination
>>>>>> (shortcut)?
>>>>>> ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, I've been trying to use Mathematica for taking class notes and
>>>>>> homework
>>>>>> assignments lately. In general I've found it faster than typing things
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> in LaTeX and it has passable typesetting quality, but there is one
>>>>>> minor
>>>>>> issue I've been having that I've not been able to find a solution to in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> docs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't figure out how to do a good "non-inline" formulas (off-line?),
>>>>>> something like latex's math environment ("\[ ... \]" or $$ ... $$.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "DisplayFormula" cell style formats equations like a proper latex
>>>>>> "off-line" math environment, except the font is a thin, not very nice
>>>>>> looking font.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know Mathematica has some decent math fonts, because TraditionalForm
>>>>>> output is rather nice, except to get a TraditionalForm font apparently
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> first has to evaluate an input cell, and accept Mathematica's default
>>>>>> symbolic manipulations (barring tinkering), which isn't a very
>>>>>> convenient
>>>>>> set up for quick typesetting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a cell style that can do TraditionalForm like typesetting
>>>>>> (without
>>>>>> first evaluating an input cell?) And if this capability exists, can the
>>>>>> functionality be bound to a key shortcut?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Murray Eisenberg murray at math.umass.edu
>>>>> Mathematics& Statistics Dept.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 413 549-1020 (H)
>>>>> University of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W)
>>>>> 710 North Pleasant Street fax 413 545-1801
>>>>> Amherst, MA 01003-9305
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Murray Eisenberg murray at math.umass.edu
>>> Mathematics& Statistics Dept.
>>> Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 413 549-1020 (H)
>>> University of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W)
>>> 710 North Pleasant Street fax 413 545-1801
>>> Amherst, MA 01003-9305
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Murray Eisenberg murray at math.umass.edu
Mathematics & Statistics Dept.
Lederle Graduate Research Tower phone 413 549-1020 (H)
University of Massachusetts 413 545-2859 (W)
710 North Pleasant Street fax 413 545-1801
Amherst, MA 01003-9305
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