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Re: Unable to generate any initial points with NMaximize (or NMinimize)

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  • Subject: [mg131220] Re: Unable to generate any initial points with NMaximize (or NMinimize)
  • From: Meike <meike at blub.net>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:24:49 -0400 (EDT)
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Thanks for your response. I think mathematica automatically converts > to >= in constraints. But even if I do that and use something like 0.00001 instead of $MachineEpsilon I get the same errors... I guess it's too hard for Mathematica to find the initial values and I have to specify them, but I shouldn't be that hard.

On Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:26:21 AM UTC+2, Dana DeLouis wrote:
> Hello.  It appears you don't have a response, so I'll give it a try.
>
>
>
> >       a > $MachineEpsilon
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>
>
> When you have a constraint such as this, you are saying that a solution of 4.440892*10^-16
>
> is not really zero, and a valid solution.
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>
>
> 2*$MachineEpsilon//N
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> 4.440892*10^-16
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>
> For optimization problems, using ">" is usually a problem because of limits.  I believe one should use ">=" for constraints.
>
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>
> If 'a was found to be around 0.000001, the program has to retry with a number smaller than this, yet greater than MachineEpsilon.  The next try might be at 0.0000001, etc.  There's not really a number smaller than MachineEpsilon (at machine precision of course) so what is the software to do?
>
>
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> Try using ">="
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>
> equ=1/(0.` +(0.012710615354858255` ... etc   //FullSimplify;
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>
> const={a>=0,b>=0,fm>=0,c>=0,p>=0,
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> fm<=5,0.00009600189408524172` (5-fm)-40.451710009005595` b fm>=0};
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> {val,sol}=NMaximize[{equ,const},{a,b,fm,c,p},MaxIterations->1000]
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> However, I don't believe this problem has a solution as given.  :>~
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> = = = = = = = = = =
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> HTH  :>)
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> Dana DeLouis
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> Mac & Mathematica 9
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> = = = = = = = = = =
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> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:16:08 AM UTC-4, Meike wrote:
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> > I often get the error:
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> >
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> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints
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>
>
> > while there are clearly points satisfying the inequality constraints. For example:
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>
>
> > NMaximize[{1/(0.` + (0.012710615354858255` (0.07879657698200958` +
>
>
>
> >           a) (0.000046296899009293725` +
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>
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> >           0.003958158898356454` b) (233.02777267494722` +
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> >           102.02996575509754` fm))/(a (4.892449413727213`*^-6 -
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>
>
> >           9.784898827454427`*^-7 fm - 0.4123000838756304` b fm)) + (
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>
>
> >      0.10155110608580004` (0.0367973376747971` +
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>
>
> >         c) (0.5030193912642286` + 16.257272679476753` b +
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> >         0.0309411917473244` p))/b + (
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> >      219.22680202984347` (0.03970570642848887` +
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> >         0.013422101464134875` fm) (0.07972967880969935` +
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> >         0.14421246041749264` p))/(fm p)), a > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >   b > $MachineEpsilon, fm > $MachineEpsilon, c > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >   p > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >
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> >   0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >     40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon, fm < 5.`}, {a, b, fm,
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> >
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> >   c, p}, MaxIterations -> 1000]
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> >
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> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints {-0.000480009+0.0000960019 fm+40.4517 b fm<0}. The initial region specified may not contain any feasible points. Changing the initial region or specifying explicit initial points may provide a better solution. >>
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> > Clearly there are initial points, for example:
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> > 0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >    40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon /. {b -> 0.0007,
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> >
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> >   fm -> 0.00003}
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> > True
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> > Also, if I make a more simple example with the same constraint I do not get the same error. I know I could give initial values myself, but since I'm automatically generating many of the optimizations, I would prefer not to. And I would like to understand why I keep getting this error and if there is any way to solve it.



On Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:26:21 AM UTC+2, Dana DeLouis wrote:
> Hello.  It appears you don't have a response, so I'll give it a try.
>
>
>
> >       a > $MachineEpsilon
>
>
>
> When you have a constraint such as this, you are saying that a solution of 4.440892*10^-16
>
> is not really zero, and a valid solution.
>
>
>
> 2*$MachineEpsilon//N
>
> 4.440892*10^-16
>
>
>
>
>
> For optimization problems, using ">" is usually a problem because of limits.  I believe one should use ">=" for constraints.
>
>
>
> If 'a was found to be around 0.000001, the program has to retry with a number smaller than this, yet greater than MachineEpsilon.  The next try might be at 0.0000001, etc.  There's not really a number smaller than MachineEpsilon (at machine precision of course) so what is the software to do?
>
>
>
> Try using ">="
>
>
>
> equ=1/(0.` +(0.012710615354858255` ... etc   //FullSimplify;
>
>
>
> const={a>=0,b>=0,fm>=0,c>=0,p>=0,
>
> fm<=5,0.00009600189408524172` (5-fm)-40.451710009005595` b fm>=0};
>
>
>
>
>
> {val,sol}=NMaximize[{equ,const},{a,b,fm,c,p},MaxIterations->1000]
>
>
>
>
>
> However, I don't believe this problem has a solution as given.  :>~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
>
>
> HTH  :>)
>
>
>
> Dana DeLouis
>
>
>
> Mac & Mathematica 9
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:16:08 AM UTC-4, Meike wrote:
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>
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> > I often get the error:
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints
>
>
>
> > while there are clearly points satisfying the inequality constraints. For example:
>
>
>
> > NMaximize[{1/(0.` + (0.012710615354858255` (0.07879657698200958` +
>
>
>
> >           a) (0.000046296899009293725` +
>
>
>
> >           0.003958158898356454` b) (233.02777267494722` +
>
>
>
> >           102.02996575509754` fm))/(a (4.892449413727213`*^-6 -
>
>
>
> >           9.784898827454427`*^-7 fm - 0.4123000838756304` b fm)) + (
>
>
>
> >      0.10155110608580004` (0.0367973376747971` +
>
>
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> >         c) (0.5030193912642286` + 16.257272679476753` b +
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> >         0.0309411917473244` p))/b + (
>
>
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> >      219.22680202984347` (0.03970570642848887` +
>
>
>
> >         0.013422101464134875` fm) (0.07972967880969935` +
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> >         0.14421246041749264` p))/(fm p)), a > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >   b > $MachineEpsilon, fm > $MachineEpsilon, c > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >   p > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >
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> >   0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >     40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon, fm < 5.`}, {a, b, fm,
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> >
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> >   c, p}, MaxIterations -> 1000]
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> >
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> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints {-0.000480009+0.0000960019 fm+40.4517 b fm<0}. The initial region specified may not contain any feasible points. Changing the initial region or specifying explicit initial points may provide a better solution. >>
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> > Clearly there are initial points, for example:
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> > 0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >    40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon /. {b -> 0.0007,
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> >
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> >   fm -> 0.00003}
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> > True
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> > Also, if I make a more simple example with the same constraint I do not get the same error. I know I could give initial values myself, but since I'm automatically generating many of the optimizations, I would prefer not to. And I would like to understand why I keep getting this error and if there is any way to solve it.



On Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:26:21 AM UTC+2, Dana DeLouis wrote:
> Hello.  It appears you don't have a response, so I'll give it a try.
>
>
>
> >       a > $MachineEpsilon
>
>
>
> When you have a constraint such as this, you are saying that a solution of 4.440892*10^-16
>
> is not really zero, and a valid solution.
>
>
>
> 2*$MachineEpsilon//N
>
> 4.440892*10^-16
>
>
>
>
>
> For optimization problems, using ">" is usually a problem because of limits.  I believe one should use ">=" for constraints.
>
>
>
> If 'a was found to be around 0.000001, the program has to retry with a number smaller than this, yet greater than MachineEpsilon.  The next try might be at 0.0000001, etc.  There's not really a number smaller than MachineEpsilon (at machine precision of course) so what is the software to do?
>
>
>
> Try using ">="
>
>
>
> equ=1/(0.` +(0.012710615354858255` ... etc   //FullSimplify;
>
>
>
> const={a>=0,b>=0,fm>=0,c>=0,p>=0,
>
> fm<=5,0.00009600189408524172` (5-fm)-40.451710009005595` b fm>=0};
>
>
>
>
>
> {val,sol}=NMaximize[{equ,const},{a,b,fm,c,p},MaxIterations->1000]
>
>
>
>
>
> However, I don't believe this problem has a solution as given.  :>~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
>
>
> HTH  :>)
>
>
>
> Dana DeLouis
>
>
>
> Mac & Mathematica 9
>
>
>
> = = = = = = = = = =
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:16:08 AM UTC-4, Meike wrote:
>
>
>
> > I often get the error:
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>
> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints
>
>
>
> > while there are clearly points satisfying the inequality constraints. For example:
>
>
>
> > NMaximize[{1/(0.` + (0.012710615354858255` (0.07879657698200958` +
>
>
>
> >           a) (0.000046296899009293725` +
>
>
>
> >           0.003958158898356454` b) (233.02777267494722` +
>
>
>
> >           102.02996575509754` fm))/(a (4.892449413727213`*^-6 -
>
>
>
> >           9.784898827454427`*^-7 fm - 0.4123000838756304` b fm)) + (
>
>
>
> >      0.10155110608580004` (0.0367973376747971` +
>
>
>
> >         c) (0.5030193912642286` + 16.257272679476753` b +
>
>
>
> >         0.0309411917473244` p))/b + (
>
>
>
> >      219.22680202984347` (0.03970570642848887` +
>
>
>
> >         0.013422101464134875` fm) (0.07972967880969935` +
>
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>
> >         0.14421246041749264` p))/(fm p)), a > $MachineEpsilon,
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>
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> >   b > $MachineEpsilon, fm > $MachineEpsilon, c > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >   p > $MachineEpsilon,
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> >
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> >   0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >     40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon, fm < 5.`}, {a, b, fm,
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> >
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> >   c, p}, MaxIterations -> 1000]
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> >
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> >
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> > NMaximize::incst: NMaximize was unable to generate any initial points satisfying the inequality constraints {-0.000480009+0.0000960019 fm+40.4517 b fm<0}. The initial region specified may not contain any feasible points. Changing the initial region or specifying explicit initial points may provide a better solution. >>
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> > Clearly there are initial points, for example:
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> >
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> > 0.00009600189408524172` (5 - fm) -
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> >
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> >    40.451710009005595` b fm > $MachineEpsilon /. {b -> 0.0007,
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> >
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> >   fm -> 0.00003}
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> > True
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> >
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> > Also, if I make a more simple example with the same constraint I do not get the same error. I know I could give initial values myself, but since I'm automatically generating many of the optimizations, I would prefer not to. And I would like to understand why I keep getting this error and if there is any way to solve it.




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