Re: Do we need a When function?
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- Subject: [mg132421] Re: Do we need a When function?
- From: Szabolcs HorvÃt <szhorvat at gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:37:28 -0400 (EDT)
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On 2014-3-10, 4:37 , Itai Seggev wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 02:42:31AM -0500, David Bailey wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Recently I wanted to create an expression that only evaluated when x was >> a number. Obviously, one way to do that is to write something like: >> >> If[x<1000000000000,f[x]] >> >> This will stay unevaluated until x is assigned to a number - as required >> - but it is very ugly because it makes it hard to understand what is >> going on. > > Why isn't this simply > > If[NumericQ[x], f[x]] (*are NumberQ, if want an actual number type*) > > But I'm further confused by your statement that it stays unevlauate until x is > assigned a number. That's not true, it will evaluate to Null unless x is > numeric prior to the start of evaluation. > >> More generally, it would be nice to write an expression that will only >> evaluate when an expression is true. I solved that by writing a function >> When: >> >> SetAttributes[When, HoldAll]; >> When[cond_, val_] := val /; cond >> >> However, my point is that this construction is sufficiently useful that >> it should be built in to Mathematica, and my solution might not be >> obvious to all users. >> >> Am I missing a simpler solution? >> >> Do others agree that this is an omission in the language? > > I'm not sure what your use case is. F[x] will of course stay unevluated until > x has some value which F knows what to do with... > Hello Itai, What (I believe) David means is that If[NumericQ[x], f[x]] immediately evaluates to Null if the symbol x has no assigned value. When[NumericQ[x], f[x]] does not evaluate in this case, so later you can substitute in a number for x and have f[x] evaluate correctly in case f[x] only works with numbers, not symbols. Then you could do something like FindRoot[ When[NumericQ[a], First@FindMaximum[Exp[-a x] x^2, {x, 1}] - 0.5], {a, 1} ] without having to go to the trouble of defining f[a_?NumericQ] := First@FindMaximum[Exp[-a x] x^2, {x, 1}] first, and keeping in mind that the symbol f is defined (or Clear[]ing it afterwards). This is potentially convenient when f would really be a one-time use function. Szabolcs P.S. Personally I am not convinced that When[] is necessary, but I felt the need to clarify since most responders seem to have missed the point of the suggestion.
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- Do we need a When function?
- From: David Bailey <dave@removedbailey.co.uk>
- Do we need a When function?