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  • Subject: [mg132462] Re: Problems with Solve
  • From: Bob Hanlon <hanlonr357 at gmail.com>
  • Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:58:38 -0400 (EDT)
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sol = z /. Solve[z + 5 (z^2 - 1) + 1 z^3 == 1, z];


sol // FullSimplify // N


{0.925423, -4.47735, -1.44807}


sol // RootApproximant // N


{0.925423, -4.47735, -1.44807}


sol // N // Chop


{0.925423, -4.47735, -1.44807}


z /. {Reduce[z + 5 (z^2 - 1) + 1 z^3 == 1, z] //
    ToRules} // N


{-4.47735, -1.44807, 0.925423}



Use Piecewise rather than If


b[s_] = Piecewise[{{Erfc[-x], s < 0.5}},
   Erfc[-x] + Erfc[y] - Erfc[z]];


b[.7]


Erfc[-x] + Erfc[y] - Erfc[z]


b[s] /. s -> .7


Erfc[-x] + Erfc[y] - Erfc[z]



Bob Hanlon




On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Samuel Mark Young <sy81 at sussex.ac.uk>wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
> I'm trying to use the solutions of Solve from solving a cubic equation -
> however, it keeps returning complex answers when there are real solutions.
> For example:
>
> Solve[z + 5 (z^2 - 1) + 1 z^3 == 1, z]
>
> This equation has 3 real solutions. However, the answers returned when I
> ask mathematica for a decimal answer are complex (which I need to do later
> on when an integration needs solving numerically):
> {{z -> 0.925423 + 0. I}, {z -> -4.47735 +
>     2.22045*10^-16 I}, {z -> -1.44807 - 4.44089*10^-16 I}}
>
> I'm guessing this is to do with the finite precision that is used in the
> calculations as the imaginary components are very small, but am unsure how
> to deal with them and they shouldn't be there. Any suggestions?
>
>
> The second problem I am having is that I need to solve for s in a function
> B[s] == 10^-5, where B is some (complicated) function of s.
>
> The form of the function depends on s - and this is handled by If[]
> commands in the function B. For example, the s dependance might be:
>
> B[s]:=If[s<0.5,Erfc[-x],Erfc[-x]+Erfc[y]-Erfc[z]]
>
> B[s] is a smooth function of s.
>
> The problem seems to arise because, before it has found a solution for s,
> it can't decide which form of the function to use - and so just returns an
> error message (I've tried using Solve, NSolve, and FindRoot with different
> methods). However, since I'm only looking for a numerical solution it is
> easily possible to solve this manually using trial and improvement - which
> seems to be something that Mathematica should be able to do? But I can't
> figure out how.
>
> Please feel free to contact me directly at sy81 at sussex.ac.uk with advice.
> Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Regards,
> Sam
>
>


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