Re: Peculiarities of Pi, E, etc.

• Subject: [mg2188] Re: Peculiarities of Pi, E, etc.
• From: jackgold at math.lsa.umich.edu (Jack Goldberg)
• Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 06:24:09 GMT
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Hi Group;

In a lecture that I recently gave to my class in Mma
I mentioned that  Pi, E, EulerGamma and Catalan have
heads Symbol and so Mma does not recognize them as
numbers; witness  NumberQ[Pi] returns False.  To my
suprise I noticed that Positive[Pi] returns True.
This got me thinking and I tried a few experiments.
Here are some of the results.

D[Pi^5,Pi]  returns 5 Pi^4

Integrate[E,{E,0,1}] returns  1/2

Sum[Pi, {Pi,1,3}]  returns  6

This is strange indeed.  It confirms a suspicion I have
harbored since learning the rudiments of Mma that the
treatment of these so-called "mathematical" constants
(in contrast to some other kind of constants?) is
inconsistent and confusing.  I refrain from offering
suggestions on how to do this because I'm reasonable
confident that no systematic change of this sort is
easy to do.

Before you think I`m one of those people who pick on
Mma for every little blemish, let me quickly report
that Maple suffers from this same ailment!
I have not tried Derive.
Maybe there's more to this than meets my eye?

Jack

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