Re: FullSimplify[Sum[1/(n^2 +n+1)^2,{n,1,p}]]?
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- Subject: [mg8384] Re: FullSimplify[Sum[1/(n^2 +n+1)^2,{n,1,p}]]?
- From: "w.meeussen" <meeussen.vdmcc at vandemoortele.be>
- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:41:20 -0400
- Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com
At 11:23 23-08-97 -0700, Tom Burton wrote: >I'm not sure how FullSimplify is suppose to help. If one waits until after >the rule p->1 is applied, all that is left is "Indeterminant"--nothing to >simplify! So I tried to FullSimplify that impressive symbolic expression. >(I should have known better, from past experience with long expressions.) >After 10 hours of struggle and disk churning, I threw in the towel without >a result. > > > Tom, the point I want to make is of course that somewhere within this expression a bug prevents evaluation. When the evaluation gives "indeterminate", then it is too late, the harm already done: At 10:38 22-08-97 -0500, Victor Adamchik wrote: > >run FullSimplify over the output > > >In[4]:= Sum[1/(n^2 +n+1)^2,{n,1,p}]; > >In[5]:= %/.p->1; *****************************(wm: no warnings mentioned!! ) > >In[6]:= FullSimplify[%] > > 1 >Out[6]= - > 9 > So the error must be platform specific. I'll copy this to Victor, with the suggestion that different platforms be tested. And that whoever sends in a test report, should also report on what platform it was done. (maybe even with Timings ?) Two further points: 1/. I dont want to sneer on the impressive piece of software-artwork that Mma is. I only want to give helpfull and positive criticism to make it even better. 2/. In the last year or so, a number of mailings to mathgroup have signalled platform differences. These are sometimes quite unexpected (cq FactorInteger[1] as {} or as {1,1} if I remember well). Apart from minimising \ abolishing them, a FAQ might be devoted to them on wolfram's web site. Dr. Wouter L. J. MEEUSSEN eu000949 at pophost.eunet.be w.meeussen.vdmcc at vandemoortele.be