Re: INDEFINITE INTEGRALS
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- Subject: [mg18069] Re: [mg18020] INDEFINITE INTEGRALS
- From: "Andrzej Kozlowski" <andrzej at tuins.ac.jp>
- Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:43:29 -0400
- Delivery-date: Tue Jun 15 02:15:42 1999
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The reason that Mathematica gives these answers is that they are quite correct, just they are not given in the form you expected. One can check this: In[1]:= Integrate[1/(a+x^2),x] Out[1]= x ArcTan[-------] Sqrt[a] --------------- Sqrt[a] In[2]:= TrigToExp[%] Out[2]= I x I x I (Log[1 - -------] - Log[1 + -------]) Sqrt[a] Sqrt[a] --------------------------------------- 2 Sqrt[a] You can see now that if a is negative, say -b^2 than Sqrt[a] is I*b and you get the answer you expected. You can induce Mathematica to give you that answer if from the start you use -b^2 in place of a In[3]:= Integrate[1/(-b^2+x^2),x] Out[3]= x ArcTanh[-] b -(----------) b In[4]:= TrigToExp[%] Out[4]= x x -Log[1 - -] + Log[1 + -] b b -(------------------------) 2 b -- Andrzej Kozlowski Toyama International University JAPAN http://sigma.tuins.ac.jp http://eri2.tuins.ac.jp ---------- >From: Blimbaum Jerry DLPC <BlimbaumJE at ncsc.navy.mil> To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net >To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net >Subject: [mg18069] [mg18020] INDEFINITE INTEGRALS >Date: Sun, Jun 13, 1999, 4:52 AM > > In order to see how well Mathematica does at integration, I tried > several types of integrals where the values of the parameters changed the > results. I compared the integrals for specific values of the parameters and > then symbolically with assumptions. For example: > > Integrate[1/(1+x^2),x] vs. Integrate[1/(-1+x^2),x] and got the > correct results of > > ArcTan[x] and 1/2 (Log[-1+x] -Log[1+x]. > > However, if i try the same thing except symbolically, namely > > Integrate[1/(a+x^2),x,Assumptions->{a>0}] and > Integrate[1/(a+x^2),x,Assumptions->{a<0}] I got > back ArcTan[x/Sqrt[a]]/Sqrt[a] for both. > > I tried variations on this theme using other functions as 1/(x > Sqrt[a+x^2]), Sqrt[a x^2 + c], 1/Sqrt[c+a x^2], where I integrated them > symbolically and then assumed a = -1 and +1. In all cases I got the same > results as above. > > Am I doing this wrong or is something in Mathematica incomplete? > The Mathematica book explicitly states that it checks for variation of the > parameters, but these results dont seem to support that. (Mathematica > 3.01) > > Thanks. Jerry Blimbaum NSWC Panama City, Florida