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Re: Re: (x|y) \[element] Integers in Reduce function

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• Subject: [mg82629] Re: [mg82582] Re: (x|y) \[element] Integers in Reduce function
• From: "Jean-Marc Gulliet" <jeanmarc.gulliet at gmail.com>
• Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:29:06 -0400 (EDT)
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Andrzej Kozlowski wrote:

> On 25 Oct 2007, at 19:09, Jean-Marc Gulliet wrote:
>
> > Steven Siew wrote:
> >> Consider the following
> >>
> >> Reduce[x^2 - 2 y^2 == 1 && x>= 0 && y>=0 && (x|y) \[element]
> >> Integers,
> >> {x,y} ]
> >>
> >> What does " (x|y) \[element] Integers "   mean?
> >>
> >> Does it mean:
> >>
> >> (a) x is an Integer  AND  y is an Integer
> >>
> >> (b) x is an Integer  OR  y is an Integer
> >
> > The correct answer is (b). The vertical bar | stands for
> > *Alternatives*
> > in pattern matching (equivalent to the non-exclusive logical OR). See
> > ref/Alternatives and also the tutorial "Patterns Involving
> > Alternatives"
> > in the documentation center (tutorial/PatternsInvolvingAlternatives).
> >
> > Note that the correct syntax for \[element] is \[Element] (with a
> > capital 'e').
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jean-Marc
> >
>
> No, the correct answer is (A)
>
> FullSimplify[Im[a] + Im[b], Element[a | b, Reals]]
> 0
>
> This only is correct when both a and b are real (given no other
> knowledge of a and b). For the explanation why the answer is A and
> not B see my first post in this thread.
>
> Andrzej Kozlowski

Andrzej,

Of course, you are right. I stand corrected.

Best regards,
-- 
Jean-Marc

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  • Re: (x|y) \[element] Integers in Reduce function
    • From: Jean-Marc Gulliet <jeanmarc.gulliet@gmail.com>