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Re: Clever Tricky Solutions

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  • Subject: [mg94320] Re: Clever Tricky Solutions
  • From: Helen Read <read at math.uvm.edu>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:48:26 -0500 (EST)
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David Park wrote:
> Helen,
> 
> With the Presentations package the Draw2D and Draw3DItems statements DO have
> the built-in option PlotRange -> Automatic. And users can very easily
> combine graphics primitives from different plot types and mix them with
> their own primitives and directives.
> 
> So, my question is: How much time have you and your students actually spent
> on this problem?

How much time *should* we spend on it? These are beginning calculus 
students / Mathematica newbies. They can cope with it by always setting 
PlotRange->Automatic when they use Show, if they remember to do it. It 
is a nuisance, though, and I wish we had the old behavior of Show, or 
even a simple way to restore that behavior with a SetOptions.

As for the Presentations package, it is not practical for us to use 
add-ons. The students use Mathematica on University-owned computers all 
over campus as well on their own laptops. If we installed packages in 
the two classrooms where I teach, it would only create confusion when 
the students use Mathematica somewhere else and things are missing or 
behave differently. It was difficult enough dealing with the standard 
packages pre-V6 (for example, we used to have load a package to use 
PolarPlot); the students tended not to distinguish between built-in 
functions and add-ons, and often forgot to load a package until it was 
too late...that old Shadow problem. (It is so much better now that in 
V6+ we almost never have to use packages for anything we would do in 
class.) If we used a package from an outside source, it would be a 
living nightmare.

--
Helen Read
University of Vermont




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