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Re: Coupled Diff Eqs or Poisson Eq, is symbolic solution

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  • Subject: [mg102871] Re: [mg102844] Coupled Diff Eqs or Poisson Eq, is symbolic solution
  • From: Neelsonn F <neelsonn at gmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 03:50:48 -0400 (EDT)
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Dear Prof. Murray,
Thank you for your reply.

I tried to fix the unreadable codes, please see the message below. Thanks
again!
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On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Murray Eisenberg <murray at math.umass.edu>
 wrote:

> Your post is essentially unreadable because of the embedded (hex?) codes
> such as "=E2", "=CF", etc.  Please use plain ASCII and remove all such
> codes.
>
> Neelsonn wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> (This is the 3rd time I am trying to post this; I apologize for any
>> duplicate)
>>
>> I've have just installed Mathematica and have some tasks to accomplish
>> using it. I've spent some time trying to find similar problems at
>> Wolfram's website, but not success so far. So I am posting here for
>> the first time (unless someone, please, point me a similar post or
>> documentation)
>>
>> Here's what I need to solve:
>> (Poisson)
>>
>> Div^2 phi(x,y) = Rs * J(x,y)
>>
>>
>> for two cases:
>>
>> i)
>>
>> phi 0 for x = 0, x = a, y = b;
>>
>> dphi/dy = 0 for y = 0.
>>
>> and
>>
>> ii)
>>
>> phi = 0 for x = 0, x = a, y = 0, y = b.
>>
>>
>> Some side notes:
>>
>> - Physically speaking, for both cases I would like to know how the
>> electrostatic potential (phi) will be distributed on a rectangular shape
>> (a,b) when it has grounded electrodes on the three edges (case i) and
>> grounded electrodes surrounding all four edges (case ii).
>>
>> - The rectangular shape resembles a resistive material, that comes the
>> Rs (sheet resistance) and J(x,y) is the current that is going to be
>> distributed on the surface of this geometry as well. In my case J(x,y)
>> = exp(V(x,y)). An "arrow plot" showing the current distribution will
>> be also interesting.
>>
>> - Eventually, once the solution phi(x,y) is found, the electric field E
>> (x,y) = - (Div) phi and the total current flow J = 1/=rho * E, =
>> where rho is the
>> resistivity (ohm.meter), is also interested
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> Now, my question is: Can Mathematica handle such problem and
>> boundaries like it is in order to solve it analytically (symbolic)? I
>> haven't seen, in the examples, problems like this. I wonder if I will
>> have to decouple
>>
>> Div^2 phi(x,y) = Rs * J(x,y)
>>
>> into first-order partial differential equations. Then,  a follow-up
>> question that comes: can Mathematica do that automatically or I should
>> pose the problem myself? For that, I've seen an example from the
>> website that uses six first-order differential equations to solve the
>> kinetics of some chemical reactions. But the problem was solved
>> numerically and I would like to have an analytical equation as a
>> result. So is it possible to find such analytical solution in case I
>> have to use a system of first-order partial diff eqs?
>>
>> (I am pretty sure that this isn't a difficult problem for those who
>> Master Mathematica)
>>
>> A final question or better yet, help needed: I would like to do all
>> the above for a different shape, not a rectangule or square, but for a
>> trapezoidal shape. I have no idea how to start and don't know how the
>> boundaries will look like. I wonder if there is a way to draw such
>> shape in Mathematica and graphically tells the software to solve it
>> (like those "FEM softwares"...). That would be very easy! I would
>> really appreciate any input here.
>>
>> Thanks
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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