Re: Integrate + Conjugate = Indeterminate
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- Subject: [mg120661] Re: Integrate + Conjugate = Indeterminate
- From: Daniel Lichtblau <danl at wolfram.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 07:04:49 -0400 (EDT)
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On 08/02/2011 06:12 AM, Sebastian Hofer wrote: > I know that my question was originally posed in a very vague way, which was partly due to me having no idea where my problems came from. After more analysis of the involved expressions, I managed to get them into a form which can be evaluated numerically without getting Indeterminate values. What I essentially did was to use a combination of iterated Expands and replacement rules like > > Expand[#] /. Power[E, x_] :> Power[E, FullSimplify@Expand@x] > > (the expressions involve several similar exponentials which are multiplied and added...). Also, as the whole expression is the result of an integral, I separated the sub-expression which needed to be integrated before the integration and put everything back together afterwards. > > Also, I was bitten by (let's call it) a very peculiar "feature" of Mathematica's handling of Conjugate: > > In[25]:= Integrate[ > Exp[(Sqrt[a + I b] - Conjugate[Sqrt[a - I b]]) x], {x, x0, x1}, > Assumptions -> a> 0&& b> 0] > > Out[25]= (-E^( > x0 (Sqrt[a + I b] - Conjugate[Sqrt[a - I b]])) + E^( > x1 (Sqrt[a + I b] - Conjugate[Sqrt[a - I b]])))/(Sqrt[a + I b] - > Conjugate[Sqrt[a - I b]]) > > In[23]:= Out[18] /. {a -> 1, b -> 2} // N > > During evaluation of (Local 2) In[23]:= Power::infy: Infinite expression 1/(0. +0. I) > encountered.>> > > During evaluation of (Local 2) In[23]:= Power::infy: Infinite expression 1/(0. +0. I)^1. > encountered.>> > > During evaluation of (Local 2) In[23]:= Infinity::indet: Indeterminate expression (0. +0. I) ComplexInfinity > encountered.>> > > Out[23]= Indeterminate > > Of course this holds for all a,b. Is there any logical explanation for this? Or better: Is there a way to get around it? This problem is probably known to many of you, but it was new to me and I would think it is a bug... > > Sebastian The reason behind it is that Mathematica fails to recognize that (Sqrt[a + I b] - Conjugate[Sqrt[a - I b]]) is zero when a,b>0. Daniel Lichtblau Wolfram Research
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- Integrate + Conjugate = Indeterminate
- From: Sebastian Hofer <sebhofer@gmail.com>
- Integrate + Conjugate = Indeterminate