Re: Struggling to prove simple triangle inequality
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- Subject: [mg126339] Re: Struggling to prove simple triangle inequality
- From: Murray Eisenberg <murray at math.umass.edu>
- Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 04:33:12 -0400 (EDT)
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On my system (OS X), Timing[Reduce[inequalityb, vars, Reals]] gives
1.0295. But if you try instead to prove the Cauchy-Schwartz Inequality,
which is equivalent to the Triangle Inequality ...
Reduce[Abs[a.b]^2 <= (a.a) (b.b), Variables[{a, b}], Reals] // Timing
... the timing is 0.18544, which is 10-fold faster!
On 5/1/12 2:58 PM, danl at wolfram.com wrote:
> On Monday, April 30, 2012 3:44:14 AM UTC-5, Vladimir M wrote:
>>
>> ...Given two 3D vectors A and B, I want to prove that length of their sum
>> is less or equal than the sum of their lengths:
>>
>> length[v_] := Sqrt[v.v];
>> a = {ax, ay, az};
>> b = {bx, by, bz};
>> inequality = length[a + b]<= length[a] + length[b];
>>
>> This is famous, well-known and quite obvious: triangle side is shorter
>> than the sum of other sides, straight line is shorter than non-
>> straight, etc. However, proving it formally is hard....
>>
>> This takes ages on a high-end PC with unknown result:
>>
>> vars = {ax, ay, az, bx, by, bz};
>> Reduce[inequality, vars, Reals]
>>
>> Anyone can help? I think Reduce should somehow make it because it
>> actually succeeds at least with 2D vectors.
>
> You can make it easier by squaring to remove many of the radicals.
>
> In[305]:= length[v_] := Sqrt[v.v];
> a = {ax, ay, az};
> b = {bx, by, bz};
> inequalityb = Expand[length[a + b]^2 - (length[a] + length[b])^2]<= 0;
> vars = Variables[{a, b}];
> Timing[Reduce[inequalityb, vars, Reals]]
>
> Out[310]= {2.98, True}
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