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Re: Calculating a simple integral

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  • Subject: [mg131086] Re: Calculating a simple integral
  • From: Dmitry Smirnov <dsmirnov90 at gmail.com>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:12:43 -0400 (EDT)
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Thanks a lot for all your advises!

Unfortunately none of them works. Because:
1) I have to calculate integral symbolicaly, not numerically.
2) It can't be divided into two parts because each of them diverges.
However, the whole expression is always finite. For example at the point
kz=2*Pi both numerator and denominator turn into zero.

Finally I have taken this one and some similar integrals in other system
and saved the results into file.

Thanks again for the efforts!


2013/6/9 Andrzej Kozlowski <akozlowski at gmail.com>

>
> On 9 Jun 2013, at 10:32, dsmirnov90 at gmail.com wrote:
>
> > If there is a way to calculate with Mathematica the following integral:
> >
> > in = -((-1 + Cos[kz])/(kz^2 (kr^2 + kz^2)^2 (kz^2 - 4 \[Pi]^2)^2))
> > Integrate[in, {kz, -Infinity, Infinity}, Assumptions -> kr > 0]
> >
> > Another system calculates the same integral instantly. :)
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
>
>
>
> Which version of Mathematica are you using?
>
> Mathematica does quite quickly calculate answers to this integral for
> numerical values of kr. For example, for kr=1 I get:
>
> Integrate[(Cos[x] - 1)/(x^2*(x^2 - 4*Pi^2)^2*(x^2 + 1)^2),
>    {x, -Infinity, Infinity}]
>
> (-3*E - 28*E*Pi^2 + 16*(-8 + E)*Pi^4 + 64*(-4 + E)*Pi^6)/(32*
>    E*(Pi + 4*Pi^3)^3)
>
> Numerically this gives:
>
> N[%]
>
> -0.00049113
>
> which agrees with the value returned by NIntegrate, so it should be
> correct. The general case takes a lot longer but there is still an answer:
>
> Integrate[(Cos[x] - 1)/(x^2*(x^2 - 4*Pi^2)^2*(x^2 + a^2)^2),
>    {x, -Infinity, Infinity}, Assumptions -> a > 0]
>
> (1/(128*a^5*Pi^4*(a^2 + 4*Pi^2)^3))*(-11*a^7*Pi -
>    92*a^5*Pi^3 + 448*a^2*Pi^5 +
>       768*Pi^7 + 2*I*a^7*CosIntegral[2*Pi] +
>    40*I*a^5*Pi^2*CosIntegral[2*Pi] -
>       2*I*a^7*ExpIntegralEi[-2*I*Pi] -
>    40*I*a^5*Pi^2*ExpIntegralEi[-2*I*Pi] +
>       16*a*Pi^(7/2)*(5*a^2 + 4*Pi^2)*MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}},
>           {{-(1/2), 1/2, 1}, {0}}, -((I*a)/2), 1/2] +
>    16*a*Pi^(7/2)*(5*a^2 + 4*Pi^2)*
>         MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}}, {{-(1/2), 1/2, 1}, {0}}, (I*a)/2,
>      1/2] +
>       32*a^3*Pi^(7/2)*
>     MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}}, {{-(1/2), 1, 3/2}, {0}}, -((I*a)/2),
>           1/2] +
>    128*a*Pi^(11/2)*MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}}, {{-(1/2), 1, 3/2}, {0}},
>           -((I*a)/2), 1/2] + 32*a^3*Pi^(7/2)*MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}},
>           {{-(1/2), 1, 3/2}, {0}}, (I*a)/2, 1/2] +
>       128*a*Pi^(11/2)*
>     MeijerG[{{1/2, 1}, {}}, {{-(1/2), 1, 3/2}, {0}}, (I*a)/2,
>           1/2] + 2*a^7*SinIntegral[2*Pi] +
>    40*a^5*Pi^2*SinIntegral[2*Pi])
>
> I have no idea if this is correct or not and don't see how this could be
> useful. What sort of answer does the other system give? And why do you
> think this is a "simple" integral? (There might be a way to evaluate it
> using the calculus of residues but probably it needs some clever trick
> since the obvious approaches don't seem to work.)
>
>
>
> Andrzej Kozlowski
>
>
>



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