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Re: How to declare Integers?

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  • Subject: [mg13010] Re: [mg12966] How to declare Integers?
  • From: BobHanlon at
  • Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:26:07 -0400
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The issue is not with whether or not Mathematica knows whether m is an
integer, since even after you told it that m is an integer it still did
not know the integral. Obviously, it does not know the value of the
integral for the general case of m being an integer.  If you expect to
encounter this integral frequently, tell it the answer. However, there
are a number of special cases which you then would then want it to
treat smartly:

     {x_, 0, Pi}] := 0;
	{x_, 0, Pi}] := 
	Pi /; Positive[m]||NonNegative[m];
	{x_, 0, Pi}] := -Pi /; Negative[m];
	{x_, 0, Pi}] := Sign[m]*Pi;
    {x_, 0, Pi}] := 
    (1 - (-1)^m)/2*Pi /; Positive[m]||NonNegative[m];
    {x_, 0, Pi}] := 
    (-1 + (-1)^m)/2*Pi /; Negative[m];
    {x_, 0, Pi}] := (1 - (-1)^m)/2*Sign[m]*Pi; Protect[Integrate];

n1/: IntegerQ[n1] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n1*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}] Table[%, {n1, -5, 5}]

1/2*(1 - (-1)^n1)*Pi*Sign[n1]

{-Pi, 0, -Pi, 0, -Pi, 0, Pi, 0, Pi, 0, Pi}

n2/: EvenQ[n2] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n2*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]


n3/: OddQ[n3] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n3*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]


n4/: OddQ[n4] = True;
n4/: Positive[n4] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n4*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]


n5/: OddQ[n5] = True;
n5/: NonNegative[n5] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n5*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]


n6/: OddQ[n6] = True;
n6/: Negative[n6] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n6*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]


n7/: IntegerQ[n7] = True;
n7/: Positive[n7] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n7*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]

1/2*(1 - (-1)^n7)*Pi

n8/: IntegerQ[n8] = True;
n8/: Negative[n8] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n8*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]

1/2*(-1 + (-1)^n8)*Pi

n9/: IntegerQ[n9] = True;
n9/: NonNegative[n9] = True;
Integrate[Sin[n9*x]/Sin[x], {x, 0, Pi}]

1/2*(1 - (-1)^n9)*Pi

I suspect this is why Mathematica does not handle all of the obvious
special cases for its large number of functions.

Bob Hanlon

In a message dated 6/28/98 6:09:36 AM, wexler at

>How can one declare a variable to be integer in Mathematica?
>Let me just give an example:
>	Integrate[Sin[m x]/Sin[x], {x,0,Pi}]    
>is well behaved if one explicitly sets m=1,2,3,... BEFORE doing the
>In[1]:= Integrate[Sin[1 x]/Sin[x], {x,0,Pi}] Out[1]= Pi
>In[2]:= Integrate[Sin[2 x]/Sin[x], {x,0,Pi}]  Out[2]= 0
>In[3]:= Integrate[Sin[m x]/Sin[x], {x,0,Pi}] Out[3]= Integrate::"idiv": 
>        Integral of Csc[x] Sin[m x] does not converge on {0,Pi}
>Other examples include evaluation of Sin[m Pi], etc...
>I tried the following trick stated in the manual:
>In[4]:=	m/: IntegerQ[m] = True
>Out[4]= True
>but still Sin[m Pi] does not simplify to 0 nor does Mathematica figures
>out that the integral above does converge in this case.
>How can one declare m to be integer? There has to be a way! In Maple it
>is rather easy and the expected behavior is obtained. I cannot believe
>that it is not possible to accomplish the same in Mathematica as well.

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