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Re: the circle map

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  • Subject: [mg52287] Re: the circle map
  • From: Roger Bagula <tftn at>
  • Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 07:23:22 -0500 (EST)
  • References: <cneuml$qbc$> <cnn0rm$8pf$>
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Dear Peter Valko,
As I explained map is "sensative" to both the oringinal a0 ( angle)
and the initial conditions. It is easy to get the dengerate circle,
and not so easy to get some of the pretty effects
This also a problem with the Martin map:
I got in real trouble in a Martin map egroup I was in because
I was trying to get the simple degenete sets, ha, ha.

On the fractional part: I've always got :
to give the same output. If it doesn't,
it may be one more problem with the Mod[x,1]
algorithm in Mathematica ( to get Modulo ones
where continued use of Sqrt[] are involved , you have
to use N[ Mod[x,1], digits_accuracy].
It shouldn't be a problem where a number not a function is used like
you have been doing. Mathematica has a bad habit of carrying what errors it
does make on  and building on them if "exact" numbers as symbols in a 
list are used.

Peter Valko wrote:

>Can you tell me why is it that in the following code of yours: 
>Clear[x, y, n];
>a0 = 0.41209;
>x[n_] := x[n] = Mod[-a0*x[n - 1] - y[n - 1], 1];
>y[n_] := y[n] = Mod[x[n - 1], 1] ;
>x[0] = 0.7;
>y[0] = .65;
>a = Table[{x[n], y[n]}, {n, 0, 10000}]; 
>ListPlot[a, PlotRange -> All] ;
>we get a fractal-like pic, but changing to a0 = 0.41208 we do not?
>(And why is that replacing Mod[-,1] by FractionalPart[-] in the above
>code will not give the same phenomenon?
>Roger Bagula <tftn at> wrote in message news:<cneuml$qbc$1 at>...
>>I've done a lot of searches on chaos
>> and Mathematica and have never seem this.
>>It is sensative chaos , in both the angle based a0 and the
>>initial starting point.
>>The circle was used by Chua as a starting point in his lectures on Chaos.
>>(* circle map: from  Chaos in Digital Filters ,Chua,Lin,
>>  IEEE transactions on Circuits and Systems,vol 35 no 6 June 1988*)
>>  (* very sensitive to intial conditions*)
>>a=Table[{x[n],y[n]},{n,0, 10000}];
>>ListPlot[a, PlotRange->All]
>>Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula
>>tftn at, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 :
>>alternative email: rlbtftn at
>>URL :

Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula
tftn at, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel: 619-5610814 :
alternative email: rlbtftn at

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