Re: Re: Newly Released Mathematica 5.1 Delivers Unmatched Performance for Handling Data

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg52406] Re: [mg52390] Re: Newly Released Mathematica 5.1 Delivers Unmatched Performance for Handling Data*From*: DrBob <drbob at bigfoot.com>*Date*: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:04:35 -0500 (EST)*References*: <co1f6q$slm$1@smc.vnet.net> <200411251050.FAA21553@smc.vnet.net>*Reply-to*: drbob at bigfoot.com*Sender*: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

>> this is essentially a cosmetic problem What are Plots and graphics in general if not cosmetic, concerned entirely with appearance and readability? We don't need graphics to work well, because it's cosmetic? Bobby On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 05:50:30 -0500 (EST), Mike <m.HoneychurcNOSPAMh at uq.edu.au> wrote: > Kevin, > > Since I do not use Linux I have no knowledge of what problems may exist. If > this is a system software problem, which I believe it is, then is it > reasonable to expect WRI to spend time and money to develop a work around > given that this is essentially a cosmetic problem. The gobbled y axis labels > are corrected if you save a graphics selection as EPS and past into programs > such as illustrator or freehand. The labels are also corrected if you save > as PDF using Acrobat. > > If you were running WRI you'd presumably prioritize all bugs or psuedo bugs > and allocate resources appropriately. I would have thought that trying to > fix something that may well get fixed in a future Mac OS release should be a > low priority given that (IMHO) it is cosmetic. > > Mike > > > > > On 24/11/04 6:02 PM, in article co1f6q$slm$1 at smc.vnet.net, "Kevin J. McCann" > <kmccann at umbc.edu> wrote: > >> I don't know firsthand that Wolfram said something like >> >> I think WRI have said that this is a Mac problem due to the apple >> implementation of postscript/PDF. >> >> However, they did report to me that a similar problem under Linux is an >> X11 problem. As I have before, I note here that we are buying >> Mathematica to do a job, not to be told that it is X11's fault or Mac's >> ps/pdf implementation fault. All that may in fact be true; however, if >> Mathematica doesn't work properly then it is broken and there is a bug. >> The sort of comments I have heard are really irritating, and I wish the >> developers would just accept the responsibility for a bad choice on >> their part, and then fix it. This rotated-text problem has been with us >> for at least two years. I second the thought that new features are fine, >> but how about putting a similar effort into fixing the old problems. >> >> Kevin >> >> Mike wrote: >>> On 21/11/04 10:53 PM, in article cnq33i$2h5$1 at smc.vnet.net, "David Park" >>> <djmp at earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Here is one thing that I hazard is a new bug. I don't actually have 5.1 so >>>> maybe someone can check it for me. >>>> >>>> The following works fine in 5.0.1. >>>> >>>> Needs["Graphics`Colors`"] >>>> >>>> f[x_, y_] := >>>> With[{v = Sin[x y]}, >>>> Which[v < 0, Gray, >>>> v < 0.2, LightCoral, >>>> v < 0.4, PaleGreen, >>>> v < 0.6, CadetBlue, >>>> v < 0.8, GeraniumLake, >>>> True, UltramarineViolet >>>> ]] >>>> >>>> Show[Graphics[ >>>> {RasterArray[ >>>> Table[f[x, y], {x, 0, 5, 5/101}, {y, 0, 5, 5/101}], {{0, 0}, {5, >>>> 5}}]}], >>>> AspectRatio -> Automatic, >>>> Frame -> True, >>>> ImageSize -> 400]; >>>> >>>> If it doesn't work in 5.1, I'm sure there's a good reason. >>>> >>>> David Park >>>> djmp at earthlink.net >>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~djmp/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Time E. Time [mailto:timetime at gmail.com] To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net >>>> >>>> New features and better algorithms are great, but does anyone know if >>>> they've fixed any bugs in this release? Things like >>>> >>>> The rotated text bug on Macs where labels on the y-axis of frames are >>>> garbled. >>> >>> >>> I think WRI have said that this is a Mac problem due to the apple >>> implementation of postscript/PDF. Eg. If you use Apple's 'save as PDF' the >>> text is garbled but if you use Acrobat it comes out fine. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>>> The instability in large eigenvalue calculations, which sometimes make >>>> it impossible to interrupt the kernel and other times cause the kernel >>>> to unexpectedly quit. >>>> >>>> The "feature" where Mathematica uses a non-standard character >>>> encoding, so that text in graphics is garbled when imported into some >>>> other programs, like Illustrator. >>>> >>>> I'm excited about cluster analysis, but I can't bring myself to fork >>>> over any more money to Stephen Wolfram until simple problems which >>>> have existed for years are fixed. >>>> >>>> -Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------070707040700070006040907 >> filename="kmccann.vcf" >> >> begin:vcard >> fn:Kevin J. McCann >> n:McCann;Kevin J. >> org:University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC);Physics/JCET >> adr:1000 Hilltop Circle;;Physics Building;Baltimore;MD;21250;USA >> email;internet:kmccann at umbc.edu >> title:Research Associate Professor >> url:http://alg.umbc.edu >> version:2.1 >> end:vcard >> >> >> --------------070707040700070006040907-- >> > > > > -- DrBob at bigfoot.com www.eclecticdreams.net

**References**:**Re: Newly Released Mathematica 5.1 Delivers Unmatched Performance for Handling Data***From:*Mike <m.HoneychurcNOSPAMh@uq.edu.au>