Re: Re: Limit of an expression?
- To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
- Subject: [mg67681] Re: [mg67649] Re: Limit of an expression?
- From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl>
- Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 01:58:19 -0400 (EDT)
- References: <200607031038.GAA16482@smc.vnet.net>
- Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com
On 3 Jul 2006, at 19:38, Bill Rowe wrote: > >> Actually, the above should be perfectly legible to you and anyone >> using a reasonably modern e-mail program. All you have to do is to >> make sure that the message is displayed with Unicode (UTF-8) >> encoding. Your e-mail program should normally be able to choose the >> right encoding automatically but if it does not do so you should be >> able to change it manually. > > Unfortunately, it isn't quite as simple as your comments above > imply. The problem is there is no single setting of an email client > that can be guaranteed to display messages on this properly as > UTF-8 isn't the only encoding a poster might use. So, while I do > have a client that will display UTF-8 properly, I find I have to > try several different encodings at times until I find the one that > seems to correctly display. The information needed for my client to > automatically select the proper display appears to either not have > been available in the first place or gets stripped as a result of > the moderator's actions. > > Hence as the moderator said > >> [It is better if posters do not send messages in this form in the >> first place -moderator] > -- > > I do not think your comments apply to anything I have ever experienced on this mailing list. You write "a poster might use" another encoding but on earth should he? In fact, I never deliberately "use" UTF-8 - it is enough to copy and paste any InputForm of a Mathematica expression that contains Greek letters or signs like ² into Apple's Mail and the message will be automatically sent as Unicode, without my "choosing" anything. Moreover, such messages are always recognized (again by Apple's Mail of course) as Unicode when I get them back form the MathGroup server. The headers in posts I receive from the MathGroup mail server ) never contain encoding information (quite properly, which makes it possible for Apple's Mail to recognize Unicode encoded messages automatically. Thus I never normally experience any problem with messages that I posted myself and which contain Unicode text. Problems appear only when such text is quoted by others, whose mail clients did not correctly recognize the encoding. In such cases a header that looks like this might appear: If this happens Apple Mail will not attempt to recognize the encoding and will display it incorrectly. But in this case just one trip to the Text Encoding menu fixes the problem. There is never a need to try any other encoding but UTF-8 on this list, because unless someone deliberately used a non-Latin encoding the only possibility is Unicode. Anyway, I have never experienced the problem with having to choose more than once, on this list anyway. It could of course be that Apple Mail is just much better in this respect than Windows mail clients but, in spite of my Mac-centrism, I can hardly believe it. Andrzej Kozlowski
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- Re: Limit of an expression?
- From: Bill Rowe <readnewsciv@earthlink.net>
- Re: Limit of an expression?