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Re: Integrals involving square roots
*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
*Subject*: [mg74008] Re: Integrals involving square roots
*From*: Paul Abbott <paul at physics.uwa.edu.au>
*Date*: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 04:56:07 -0500 (EST)
*Organization*: The University of Western Australia
*References*: <es90ol$2lt$1@smc.vnet.net>
In article <es90ol$2lt$1 at smc.vnet.net>,
"Andre Giroux" <giroux at dms.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Hi All.
> Mathematica is very unreliable when it computes integrals involving square
> roots. The following were obtained running Mathematica 5.2 and 5.1 with
> Windows XP pro:
>
> In[1]:=
> \!\(\[Integral]\_\(-3\)\%3\(\[Integral]\_\(-\@\(9 - x\^2\)\)\%\(\@\(9 -
> \x\^2\)\)\(\[Integral]\_0\%\(y - 3\)2 y \[DifferentialD]z \[DifferentialD]y
> \[DifferentialD]x\)\)\)
> Out[1]=
> \!\(\(81\ \[Pi]\)\/2\)
> In[5]:=
> \!\(\[Integral]\_0\%2\(\[Integral]\_\(-R\)\%R\( Rz\^2\/\@\(R\^2 - x\^2\)\)
> \\[DifferentialD]x \[DifferentialD]z\)\)
> Out[5]=
> \!\(\(-2\)\ \[Pi]\ Rz\^2\)
>
> In both cases, the sign is wrong and, with the first integral, it is not
> obvious. Interestingly, Mathematica 5.0 computes these integrals correctly.
> So beware!
More than not obvious. I assume that the first integral is
Integrate[2 y, {x, -3, 3}, {y, -Sqrt[9 - x^2], Sqrt[9 - x^2]},
{z, 0, y - 3}]
for which Mathematica returns.
(81 Pi)/2
As far as I can see, this integral _is_ correct. It certainly agrees
with the numerical integral:
NIntegrate[2 y, {x, -3, 3}, {y, -Sqrt[9 - x^2], Sqrt[9 - x^2]},
{z, 0, y - 3}]
127.23450236818807
For the second integral, there is no space between R and z^2 in your
input expression. Moreover, telling Mathematica that R > 0, yields the
correct answer:
Assuming[R > 0, Integrate[(R z^2)/Sqrt[R^2 - x^2],
{z, 0, 2}, {x, -R, R}]]
(8 Pi R)/3
Cheers,
Paul
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