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Re: Re: Re: Re: Which editor do you use for math

This is a bit off-topic - apologies in advance.

Included below is a nearly minimal file demonstrating how to use any  
Mac font with XeLaTeX.  If you save the text below as a file named  
"temp.tex" you can produce a PDF file by typing

	xelatex temp.tex

The "magic" required to use any system-installed Mac font is the  
"fontspec" package.  The \setmainfont command sets the default font  
for the document. (There are other commands for setting the default  
monospace font, etc.) If you want to change the font within your  
document, you need to use the \fontspec command. Changing the size can  
be done by changing the value of Size=NN to another value.  If you  
have TeXLive installed, you should be able to get documentation for  
the fontspec package by typing "texdoc fontspec" at the command line.

But, I agree, it does take some sleuthing to figure this out.


\setmainfont{Book Antiqua}

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

\fontspec[SizeFeatures={{Size=16}}]{Hoefler Text}
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

\fontspec[SizeFeatures={{Size=18}}]{Arial Narrow}
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

On 23 Jan 2009, at 10:07, DrMajorBob wrote:

> My advice? Stick to Mathematica and/or Word. (Unless you're willing to
> learn LaTeX from the ground up, the hard way.)
> I spent several hours last night sleuthing how to use Mac fonts in  
> LyX,
> which led to using them in TeXShop, which led to indecipherable
> instructions for using LyX with XeTex, which led to utter confusion. I
> found a LyX document that "explained" and "demonstrated" how to do  
> this;
> but that document explained exactly nothing and could not be typeset,
> neither with LaTeX NOR XeTeX. Trying to do so popped up error messages
> (like the ones mentioned below).
> Explanations (and ERROR messages) FREQUENTLY repeated the equivalent  
> of,
> "If you use *nix, you'll be able to figure this out. No need to  
> explain
> it," or "Make like Sherlock Holmes, and look for clues."
> Apparently, the developers of this stuff MAY be a lot wise-a**es who'd
> rather, really, have nobody else use their code.
> Or, at least, they can't be bothered with meaningful documentation or
> installers that do the full job.
> Bobby
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:01:46 -0600, Curtis Osterhoudt <cfo at>  
> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 21 January 2009 04:47:31 Sjoerd C. de Vries wrote:
>> [...]
>>> LaTeX had all kinds of problems. Figures never appeared where you
>>> wanted them.
>>   Thus the h! flag. Most of the GUI frontends to LaTeX now allow for
>> easy specification of where you want the figures, and the degree of
>> their "floatiness".
>>> Quite often they ended up bunched together at the end of
>>> a chapter. You needed a kludge like the here.sty style file. Using
>>> different fonts was next to impossible. LaTeX2e that appeared later
>>> improved that (so I have heard). However, years later, when I  
>>> tried to
>>> typeset my plain LaTeX based thesis once again, I couldn't get it to
>>> compile with the then current 2e version. So much for compatibility.
>>  This may still be a problem.
>>> Equations of more than average complexity easily filled up half a  
>>> page
>>> of code rubbish and were a pain to debug.
>>  No problem with, e.g., LyX and its "instant preview".
>>> Spellchecking less than
>>> basic. Try to write a multiple language peace and spellcheck that in
>>> LaTeX.
>>  This is no problem now.
>>> Virtually no picture tools. No tracked changes. No
>>> collaboration tools etc etc.
>>   All of that is quite easy now.
>>> I don't want to start a flame war. Just balancing the discussion
>>> somewhat. I am well aware of many or most of the problems of Word.
>>> Cheers -- Sjoerd
>>  Points taken! All of the "desktop publishing" paradigms can *really*
>> be worked on.
> -- 
> DrMajorBob at

Dr J. McKenzie Alexander
Department of Philosophy, Logic and Scientific Method
London School of Economics and Political Science
Houghton Street, London WC2A 2AE

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