Re: Re: algebraic numbers
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- Subject: [mg106314] Re: [mg106295] Re: algebraic numbers
- From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl>
- Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 04:14:59 -0500 (EST)
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On 7 Jan 2010, at 16:33, Richard Fateman wrote: > > Incidentally, it is not known if E+Pi is rational. Brilliant. But even a high school child can prove that either E+Pi is irrational or E*Pi is irrational (in fact you can replace irrational with transcendental). > > If you capitalize the term and wish to say that 1.2 is not a Rational > in Mathematica, that is just a convention based on the "type" of data > that is input to Mathematica with a decimal point and is therefore > stored in a memory format that is labeled "Real" which (in Mathematica) > is a superclass of "Rational". That is, "1/2" is a Rational but is also > a Real and is incidentally also a Complex. But 0.5 is not a Real. You are confusing Real and Reals. This Element[1.2, Reals] True has nothing to do with types because Element[Pi, Reals] True even though Head /@ {1.2, Pi} {Real,Symbol} and also Element[0.5, Rationals] False Element[1/2, Rationals] True and just by the way: Element[Pi, Rationals] False Element[E, Rationals] False Element[E + Pi, Rationals] Element[E + Pi, Rationals] so Mathematica knows as much as you about this. But it does not know as much as me since Reduce[Element[E + Pi, Rationals] && Element[E Pi, Rationals]] should return False.
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- Re: Re: algebraic numbers
- From: DrMajorBob <btreat1@austin.rr.com>
- Re: algebraic numbers
- From: Richard Fateman <fateman@cs.berkeley.edu>
- Re: Re: algebraic numbers