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Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition
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*Subject*: [mg116225] Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition
*From*: John Fultz <jfultz at wolfram.com>
*Date*: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:06:27 -0500 (EST)
The Home Edition is fully compatible with 64-bit operating systems
to the extent that they support 32-bit applications generally. The
principle place where that qualification might cause any issues would
be under Linux, where you might have to install a number of 32-bit
compatibility libraries which are not install ed by default.
Sincerely,
John Fultz
jfultz at wolfram.com
User Interface Group
Wolfram Research, Inc.
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:06:16 -0500 (EST), E. Martin-Serrano wrote:
> Up to now, I had not become aware of the 32-bits restriction on the home
> editions, since I am still working with a 32-bits machine and never paid
> special attention to that.
>
> However, I am now thinking of buying an Intel Core i7 (64 bits) windows 7
> based machine, mainly to run my (personal) heavy Mathematica stuff
> (computation and graphics developed on both, V6.01 full international
> license and v7.01 Home Edition, -- the V7 home to be upgraded to V8 home
> if finally I have the answers to questions I made to the WRI customer
> service at the beginning of January after having unsuccessfully attempted
> to try the V8-Trial).
>
> Now, I am at a loss, since, for example, my V6.0.1 (in the "About Wolfram
> Mathematica", also appears: "Plattform 32-bits").
>
> So, I have this question to the very experts in the group.
>
> Does this restriction mean that the Mathematica home editions would not
> work at all on 64 bits machines or just that it/they would not take
> adventage of the whole power of the 64 bits multiple nucleus
> architectures?
>
> I assume that the full V6.0.1 licensed will run freely on 64-bits.
>
> So, If the home editions (V7/V8) still work on a 64-bits machine, though
> restricted to 32-bits, in which way, if any, would the 32-based editions
> would use the four nucleus of the Intel Core i7/i5 (64 bits)? Will it
> depend either on the way Mathematica uses the procesors that or on the
> way Windows emulates 32 bits applications?
>
>
> E. Martin-Serrano
>
> P.S.
>
> Just for it is of any use to anyone.
>
> It seems that the download files (in general, but specially the huge
> 922Mb V8-Trial file) are vulnerable to the downloading process. After
> taking all kind of precautions to not interfere with the transfer, I have
> tried to download at least six times the V8 installation file over an
> ADSL 6-Mb line, and all of downloaded files came corrupted. Maybe the
> line had problems,... maybe, but the SPI (Telefonica) denied that fact
> after my complains. As a result,I gave up to check the trial on January 6
> or so, and ask the customer service about the issue.
>
> But, beware, the fact to take in a account is that I have had problems
> with corrupted files in downloading other different WRI application files
> before (V7.01, WorkBench 1, and WorkBench 2) and finally, en each and
> every case, WRI solved the problem by sending me a direct link to a
> different named file (containing the same application) which I downloaded
> at the first attempt whithout any problem at all. This suggests me that
> the trouble would be in the file itself and not in the line.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kirkby [mailto:drkirkby at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:42 AM
> To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
> Subject: [mg116216] [mg116190] Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition
>
> On Feb 2, 11:07 am, Daniel Lichtblau <d... at wolfram.com> wrote:
>> AES wrote:
>>> In article <ii5rii$fi... at smc.vnet.net>,
>>> Murray Eisenberg <mur... at math.umass.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So far as I am aware, for a given version number, e.g., 8.0.0, the
>>>> regular (i.e., "Professional") edition == Home Edition == Student
>>>> Edition
>>>> with respect to features.
>>>>
>>>> The two aspects that _may_ differ are: (1) kind of support provided
>>>> by
>>>> Wolfram Research (beyond installation issues), and (2) whether some
>>>> special identification of the edition appears on printed pages.
>>>>
>>> And, the legal restrictions that you (purportedly!) agree to, and even
>>> commit others to, when you purchase and use the Home Edition.
>>>
>>> Last time I looked at the fine print of these was several years ago,
>>> but
>>> my reaction at that time was that they were as extensive as they were
>>> dismaying as they were stupid as they were unenforceable.
>>>
>> If you go to the order page,
>>
>>
> https://www.wolfram.com/securecheckout/?model==MHED100D&use_type==HomeEdi=
tion
>
>> there is the following note
>>
>> "Mathematica Home Edition is a 32-bit program available for Windows
>> (XP/Vista/7), Mac OS X (Intel), and Linux. It is not licensed for
>> commercial, nonprofit, academic, or government use. For those who want
>> to integrate Mathematica into their teaching, research, or work,
>> Mathematica Professional is always available."
>>
>> There is a legalese version of this in the license agreement. In essence
>> it spells out that the product is solely for personal use and NOT for
>> commercial use. It is about as brief as the above; I'd show it, except I
>> only have it in a scanned pdf and I cannot cut-paste the text.
>>
>> Is this the point of controversy? I ask because, for a product being
>> discounted to around 15% of the professional price, these do not strike
>> me as especially onerous conditions. In particular, I've yet to see the
>> part about restrictions to which one would "commit others". Feel free to
>> enlighten me.
>>
>> Daniel Lichtblau
>> Wolfram Research
>>
> So there is a technical restriction, with the home edition being 32-
> bit, not 64-bit as the professional version is.
>
> It was not entirely clear to me from times when I read this before
> (year + ago) if the 32-bit limitation was just for the Windows
> platform, or for Linux and OS X too.
>
>> From the quote you give above, it implies that the home editionis
> indeed 32-bit on all platforms.
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