Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition
- To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
- Subject: [mg116225] Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition
- From: John Fultz <jfultz at wolfram.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 06:06:27 -0500 (EST)
The Home Edition is fully compatible with 64-bit operating systems to the extent that they support 32-bit applications generally. The principle place where that qualification might cause any issues would be under Linux, where you might have to install a number of 32-bit compatibility libraries which are not install ed by default. Sincerely, John Fultz jfultz at wolfram.com User Interface Group Wolfram Research, Inc. On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:06:16 -0500 (EST), E. Martin-Serrano wrote: > Up to now, I had not become aware of the 32-bits restriction on the home > editions, since I am still working with a 32-bits machine and never paid > special attention to that. > > However, I am now thinking of buying an Intel Core i7 (64 bits) windows 7 > based machine, mainly to run my (personal) heavy Mathematica stuff > (computation and graphics developed on both, V6.01 full international > license and v7.01 Home Edition, -- the V7 home to be upgraded to V8 home > if finally I have the answers to questions I made to the WRI customer > service at the beginning of January after having unsuccessfully attempted > to try the V8-Trial). > > Now, I am at a loss, since, for example, my V6.0.1 (in the "About Wolfram > Mathematica", also appears: "Plattform 32-bits"). > > So, I have this question to the very experts in the group. > > Does this restriction mean that the Mathematica home editions would not > work at all on 64 bits machines or just that it/they would not take > adventage of the whole power of the 64 bits multiple nucleus > architectures? > > I assume that the full V6.0.1 licensed will run freely on 64-bits. > > So, If the home editions (V7/V8) still work on a 64-bits machine, though > restricted to 32-bits, in which way, if any, would the 32-based editions > would use the four nucleus of the Intel Core i7/i5 (64 bits)? Will it > depend either on the way Mathematica uses the procesors that or on the > way Windows emulates 32 bits applications? > > > E. Martin-Serrano > > P.S. > > Just for it is of any use to anyone. > > It seems that the download files (in general, but specially the huge > 922Mb V8-Trial file) are vulnerable to the downloading process. After > taking all kind of precautions to not interfere with the transfer, I have > tried to download at least six times the V8 installation file over an > ADSL 6-Mb line, and all of downloaded files came corrupted. Maybe the > line had problems,... maybe, but the SPI (Telefonica) denied that fact > after my complains. As a result,I gave up to check the trial on January 6 > or so, and ask the customer service about the issue. > > But, beware, the fact to take in a account is that I have had problems > with corrupted files in downloading other different WRI application files > before (V7.01, WorkBench 1, and WorkBench 2) and finally, en each and > every case, WRI solved the problem by sending me a direct link to a > different named file (containing the same application) which I downloaded > at the first attempt whithout any problem at all. This suggests me that > the trouble would be in the file itself and not in the line. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Kirkby [mailto:drkirkby at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:42 AM > To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net > Subject: [mg116216] [mg116190] Re: Mathematica 8 Home Edition > > On Feb 2, 11:07 am, Daniel Lichtblau <d... at wolfram.com> wrote: >> AES wrote: >>> In article <ii5rii$fi... at smc.vnet.net>, >>> Murray Eisenberg <mur... at math.umass.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> So far as I am aware, for a given version number, e.g., 8.0.0, the >>>> regular (i.e., "Professional") edition == Home Edition == Student >>>> Edition >>>> with respect to features. >>>> >>>> The two aspects that _may_ differ are: (1) kind of support provided >>>> by >>>> Wolfram Research (beyond installation issues), and (2) whether some >>>> special identification of the edition appears on printed pages. >>>> >>> And, the legal restrictions that you (purportedly!) agree to, and even >>> commit others to, when you purchase and use the Home Edition. >>> >>> Last time I looked at the fine print of these was several years ago, >>> but >>> my reaction at that time was that they were as extensive as they were >>> dismaying as they were stupid as they were unenforceable. >>> >> If you go to the order page, >> >> > https://www.wolfram.com/securecheckout/?model==MHED100D&use_type==HomeEdi= tion > >> there is the following note >> >> "Mathematica Home Edition is a 32-bit program available for Windows >> (XP/Vista/7), Mac OS X (Intel), and Linux. It is not licensed for >> commercial, nonprofit, academic, or government use. For those who want >> to integrate Mathematica into their teaching, research, or work, >> Mathematica Professional is always available." >> >> There is a legalese version of this in the license agreement. In essence >> it spells out that the product is solely for personal use and NOT for >> commercial use. It is about as brief as the above; I'd show it, except I >> only have it in a scanned pdf and I cannot cut-paste the text. >> >> Is this the point of controversy? I ask because, for a product being >> discounted to around 15% of the professional price, these do not strike >> me as especially onerous conditions. In particular, I've yet to see the >> part about restrictions to which one would "commit others". Feel free to >> enlighten me. >> >> Daniel Lichtblau >> Wolfram Research >> > So there is a technical restriction, with the home edition being 32- > bit, not 64-bit as the professional version is. > > It was not entirely clear to me from times when I read this before > (year + ago) if the 32-bit limitation was just for the Windows > platform, or for Linux and OS X too. > >> From the quote you give above, it implies that the home editionis > indeed 32-bit on all platforms.