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Re: Another point about Mathematica 8.0

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  • Subject: [mg116549] Re: Another point about Mathematica 8.0
  • From: "Hans Michel" <hmichel at cox.net>
  • Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 05:13:45 -0500 (EST)

AES:

Please see on your own institution's website that sells academic software.

http://acomp.stanford.edu/software
http://www.stanford.edu/services/techtraining/techexpress/media/software_lic
ensing2.ppt
https://www.stanford.edu/group/bookstore/SUprices/softwarecart.html

The home edition model came out of faculty working at different hours of the
day can complete their work by purchasing a cheaper "home edition" with some
vague licensing terms. Businesses want people to use their software. Same
model holds for developers version of software. They license it to you in
hopes that you develop software and when or if your project takes-off you
did not have to plopped down a lot of money. But when you do publish (sell)
your application you should make certain that your application is compliant
to any licensing issues.

Nonprofit (not-for-profit?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization) organizations are
allowed to make money. Just stipulation on routing that profit. So if you
moonlight for a nonprofit and they are a client who is to say they could not
pay you $2000 for your newsletter work?

You are in a boundary value problem. Home Edition with one client. At which
point should licensing agreements be enforced, Home Edition X client? Solve
for X. 

Most people who have gray area issues solve it by doing what is best for
them, they don't usually try to change the rules. Is it breaking is it
bending the rules, call it what you want. 

Your own institution sells academic "home version" of QuarkExpress a DTP
software. I believe that their intent is for you to do work related to
school, say if you are taking a graphics class, not for you to have 20
clients, but because you got the "home edition" at a lower rate should not
matter. The assumption is when you get successful at using the application
and you have some money coming in you will be a full customer of said DTP
software maker. There are free DTP software out there that would allow one
to write a family newsletter, one would not have to use Quark.

I brought Mathematica at student discount >20 years ago. When I graduated I
switch the license to the full version, paid the upgrade price. I have
worked in places that offer the home edition, but I have always maintained
my licensed copy.

If you are saying that the home edition model that WRI has adopted for
hobbyist, not affiliated with any institution to reduce the introductory
price of the software for the occasional user, is wrong. Then say that. What
model would you propose? Any business or expert should be willing to listen
to advice, but they don't have to take it or give you access to their time.

Hans


-----Original Message-----
From: AES [mailto:siegman at stanford.edu] 
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:37 AM
To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
Subject: [mg116549] [mg116536] Re: Another point about Mathematica 8.0

Can anyone (Wolfram employees in particular) point me to any other 
consumer software product that requires purchasers to promise to limit 
the tasks that they will perform using the standard, built-in, 
non-crippled capabilities of the software?  

(Tasks that the software is designed and intended to do; and a promise 
that is legally binding, and can, at least in theory, be legally 
enforced and lead to penalties.)

I'm not talking about limitations as to what machine, or how many 
machines, the software will be used on; or on how many users or how 
copies of the software can be active simultaneously; or limitations the 
product itself imposes on how large generated files sizes can be, or how 
many items can be entered into a database, or the like.  And I'm not 
talking restrictions your employer may put on a machine and associated 
software that the employer has purchased and owns.

I'm talking about a "home edition" of a spreadsheet that a school 
teacher can use to keep track of his/her personal finances and Christmas 
card list, but has to promise not to use it to the keep the books and 
prepare the budgets of a nonprofit for which one is the elected 
treasurer, and not to keep the homework and exam grades for the classes 
in the school where one works.

Or a "home edition" of a word processor that one can use to write 
letters to Aunt Minnie, but has to promise not to use it to write 
reports for the same nonprofit, or business plans for the firm where one 
works.

Or a "home edition" of a desktop publishing program that one can use to 
do your own family newsletter at Christmas, but has to make a legally 
binding promise not to use this software for the nonprofit's newsletter 
or your employer's annual report (or a prospectus and other work 
products for your half-time freelance consulting business).

Anyone know of any retail personal-computer software that requires 
anything like this?  (Direct quotes or relevant URLs, please)



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