Re: Simple integral
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- Subject: [mg119266] Re: Simple integral
- From: Bill Rowe <readnews at sbcglobal.net>
- Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 06:14:31 -0400 (EDT)
On 5/26/11 at 7:17 AM, mariano.pierantozzi at gmail.com (Mariano Pierantozzi) wrote: >I am grateful to all who answered me. All of you have suggest to me >to use the command Simplify[% // TrigToExp, b^2 - 4 c > 0] In this >way i've this solution: (Log[-b + Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c] - 2*x] - Log[b + >Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c] + 2*x])/ >Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c]. >But this is not the solution of the departure integral. If "whit my >hand" calculate the solution i've this result: 1(1/Sqrt[b^2 - >4 c]) (Log[(2 x + b - (Sqrt[b^2 - 4 c]))/((2 x + b + (Sqrt[b^2 - 4 >c])))]) First, consider: In[31]:= g = Simplify[Integrate[1/(x^2 + b x + c), x] // TrigToExp, b^2 - 4 c > 0] Out[31]= (Log[Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c] - b - 2*x] - Log[Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c] + b + 2*x])/ Sqrt[b^2 - 4*c] In[32]:= D[g, x] // Simplify Out[32]= 1/(x*(b + x) + c) So, the result obtained from Integrate is clearly the anti-derivative of the integrand and is a correct solution to the indefinite integral. Now consider your hand solution In[33]:= f = 1 (1/Sqrt[ b^2 - 4 c]) (Log[(2 x + b - (Sqrt[b^2 - 4 c]))/((2 x + b + (Sqrt[b^2 - 4 c])))]); D[f, x] // Simplify Out[34]= 1/(x (b+x)+c) which demonstrates both f and g are valid solutions to the indefinite integral. But since, In[35]:= FindInstance[g != f, {b, c, x}] Out[35]= {{b -> 149/10 - (11*I)/2, c -> 59/10 - (62*I)/5, x -> 49/2 - I/10}} it is clear f and g are identical for all b, c and x.