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Re: Mathematica and Lisp

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  • From: Richard Fateman <fateman at eecs.berkeley.edu>
  • Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 04:16:44 -0500 (EST)
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On 3/4/2013 7:34 AM, Murray Eisenberg wrote:
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 10:58 PM, Richard Fateman <fateman at eecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 3/3/2013 5:57 AM, Bob Hanlon wrote:
>>> "@@@ ?"
>>>
>>> The operator @@@ has been used and explained multiple times on this
>>> newsgroup and is documented in the Mathematica help.
>> /I'm a touch typist.
>> So I'm happy with examples like this ---
>>
>> ? Apply
>>    which  works
>>
>> But
>>
>> ? @@@
>>
>> returns Information::nomatch
>>
>> To use your method I must remove at least one hand from the keyboard,
>> scramble around to find
>>   the mouse and then hit f1 and then return my hand to the keyboard in
>> order to  get the documentation.
> Aww -- such hardship!
Some people prefer better user interfaces to poorer user interfaces.  
Some people like central heating.
Some people like to chop wood and feed a stove.  There is no accounting 
for tastes.
> So much that I can barely understand why you'd even bother to use Mathematica -- except possible for the singular purpose of burdening this group with your many posts that don't actually help anybody to use Mathematica and don't make viable suggestions on how WRI might improve the product.
I think it is a perfectly valid suggestion to Wolfram that
? @@@

should work to produce documentation on @@@

If you think that there is a good reason to not do this, other than "oh, 
that would require some fixin' "  or
"It isn't supposed to do that."   then I'd be curious to hear it.

Generally when I find a bug in Mathematica I report it to Wolfram. I try 
not to burden this group
with mere bug reports -- after all, the vast majority of the readers are 
in no way responsible
for the bugs and are not in a position to fix them.   Occasionally a bug 
is amusing enough to
report here.

Occasionally WRI makes changes in Mathematica that correspond to 
suggestions that I've made.
Perhaps coincidence.

The fact that I occasionally mock Mathematica and Wolfram doesn't meant 
there is no content.


RJF





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