Re: D vs. Derivative
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- Subject: [mg15646] Re: [mg15601] D vs. Derivative
- From: BobHanlon at aol.com
- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:28:42 -0500 (EST)
- Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com
In a message dated 1/28/99 6:17:12 AM, gorni at dimi.uniud.it writes: >It seems that D[f[x],x] and f'[x] are not equivalent, and the latter can >give useless outputs. > >Consider the following power series, that converges in the unit disk of >the complex field: > > f[x_] = Sum[ x^(n-1)/(n^3+n), {n, 1, Infinity} ] > >With immediate assignment, f[x] is evaluated to a special function. >Suppose now that I need the derivative of f[x]. If I do it with > > D[ f[x], x ] > >there is no problem: I get a regular-looking special function >combination. But if I try to get the derivative with > > f'[x] > >the output is a formula containing DirectedInfinity. Moreover > > f'[x] // Simplify > >gives Indeterminate. > >By the way, the integral > > Integrate[ (1-Cos[y])/(E^y-x), {y, 0, Infinity} ] > >is left as it is by Mathematica, although it is equal to the special >function f[x] above, at least for many values of x. > >My version is 3.0.1 for PowerMacintosh. > Gianluca, f1[x_] := Evaluate[Simplify[Sum[ x^(n-1)/(n^3+n), {n, 1, Infinity} ]]]; f2[x_] := Evaluate[FullSimplify[Sum[ x^(n-1)/(n^3+n), {n, 1, Infinity} ]]] f1[x] -(1/(4*x)*(2*I - 2*I*HypergeometricPFQ[{I, 1}, {1 + I}, x] + (1 + I)*x*HypergeometricPFQ[{1, 1 - I}, {2 - I}, x] + 4*Log[1 - x])) f2[x] -(1/2)*x^(-1 - I)*(Beta[x, I, 0] + x^I*(I + x^I*Beta[x, 1 - I, 0] + 2*Log[1 - x])) f1[x] - f2[x] == 0 // FullSimplify True D[f1[x], x]//Simplify 1/(2*x^2)*(-1 + I + (1 - I)* HypergeometricPFQ[{I, 1}, {1 + I}, x] + x*HypergeometricPFQ[{1, 1 - I}, {2 - I}, x] + 2*Log[1 - x]) f2'[x]//Simplify 1/x^2*(1/2 + I/2)*(Beta[x, I, 0]/x^I - I*(-1 + x^I*Beta[x, 1 - I, 0] + (1 + I)*Log[1 - x])) % - %% == 0 //FullSimplify True Since the form of f2 avoids the problem, it should be used. Bob Hanlon