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Correction to my last post

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  • Subject: [mg36016] Correction to my last post
  • From: "Jonathan Rockmann" <MTheory at msn.com>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:34:33 -0400 (EDT)
  • Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

MathGroup,

I don't know why all of my symbols disappeared when I copied and pasted to the
last post I submitted.  My last post makes no sense.  I bet you now
 I'm going to get a flood of comments about this.  Sorry.  

It should say:

A lot of people think that Lim n->00 (1+(1/n))^n 1.  Their reasoning is this:
"When n->00, then 1+(1/n)->1.  Now compute lim n->00 1^n =1".
Of course, this reasoning is too simple.  You have to deal with both of the
n's in the expression (1+(1/n))^n at the same time -- i.e., they both 
go to infinity simutaneously: you can't figure that one goes to infinity 
and then the other goes to infinity.  And in fact, if you let the other one
go to infinity first, you'd get a different answer: lim n->00 (1+.0000001)^n=00.
So evidently the answer lies somewhere between 1 and 00.  That doesn't tell
us much; my point here is that easy methods do not work 
on this problem.  The correct answer is a number that is near 2.718281828 ...
i.e. the constant "e".  There's no way you could get that by an easy method.


Jonathan 
mtheory at msn.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Rockmann
To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
Subject: [mg36016] [mg35978] Re: [mg35940] Re: One to the power Infinity

As a follow up to David's example:

Some students seem to think that lim n->0 (1+(1/n))n = 1. Their reasoning
is this: "When n->0, then 1+(1/n) -> 1. Now compute lim n->0 1 n = 1."
This reasoning is just too simplistic. You have to deal with both of the n's
in the expression (1+(1/n))n at the same time -- i.e., the
y both go to infinity simultaneously; you can't figure that one goes to infinity
and then the other goes to infinity. In fact, if you let the other one go
to infinity first, you'd get a different answer: lim n->0 (1+0.0000001)n 

0. So evidently the answer lies somewhere between 1 and 
0.  Easy methods do not work on this problem.

The correct answer is a number that is near 2.718. (It's an important constant,
known to mathematicians as "e" = aprrox. 2.718281828...) There's no way
 you
could get that by an easy method. 

Jonathan Rockmann
mtheory at msn.com

----- Original Message -----
From: David W. Cantrell
To: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net
Subject: [mg36016] [mg35978] [mg35940] Re: One to the power Infinity

Matthias.Bode at oppenheim.de wrote:
> 0^\[Infinity] => 0, as expected;
> 0.9^\[Infinity] => 0, as expected;
> 2^\[Infinity] => Infinity, as expected;
> 1^\[Infinity] => Indeterminate, unexpected. Naively expected: 1.
>
> For which reason(s) is 1^\[Infinity] defined as Indeterminate?

Presumably because, as a limit form, 1^Infinity is indeterminate.
In other words, if f(x) approaches 1 and g(x) increases without bound,
f(x)^g(x) need not approach 1. Consider the limit of (1+1/x)^x as x
increases without bound, for example.

David


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